[Imc-finance] Re: [Editorialarg] PROPUESTA FINANZAS

[jb]

Compas de IMCarg, ni voy a hacer un sumario en castellano, ya es tarde, lo
tradusco todo maņana.

Summary:

  Replying to the 2nd point Evan raises, being worry about IMC Argentina
  receiving large infusions of cash from overeas source and not relying on
  national donations. I try to make clear why IMC Argentina doesn't receive
  financial donations from national sources due to the situation here.

Side note:

  Being one of the fews that speak english in the collective and due to the
  urgence of the situation, i feel free to answer to this process list with
  my words and opinions.

> Sorry for only responding in english.
>
> Summary: Support of the $500 emergency funding, questioning the
> 	 opperational support. And a request that this proposal be
> 	 reformated so it's readable.
>
> I do have a questions though. To use an Argentine phrase "God holds
> mass in Buenos Aires." I'm wondering if all of this money is just for
> events/imc coverage in the capital or will be be used around the
> country. The Rosario Collective (a seperate new-imc approved imc) has
> also been searching for an extra digital or video camera to cover this
> week of protests as well.
>
> On the second topic, i'm a little worried about ongoing opperational
> support grant. You do lay it out bellow but the formatting makes it
> very dificult to read. I also think it would be good to include some
> history of past donations (both from the global fund and those other
> big anonymous donations).

> I get worried when an IMC starts to rely on large infusions of cash from
> over seas on a continual basis to keep afloat.

I would like to know how Indymedia Argentina or a similar organization
would survive without overseas donations of money. I am afraid you don't
know about the situation in Argentina.

Let me outline a point you may find silly and totally out of context if
taken from a northern point of view: Indymedia Argentina receives donations
on a daily basis, that can be donations of food or mate, and each of its
member is invited to eat with the assemblies we are working with.

To evaluate the importante of these donations, you need to know that most
members of the collective have been unemployed for a very long time and
still are, that these people, who are media activists you couldn't dream of,
don't have half a US dollar to eat most of the time; some of them are
homeless also. They are not hungry and homeless for fun or for enjoying the
alternative side of life, they are because Argentina has been
methodogically destroyed in the last decades, they are in deep sh1t in thesame state of more that 60% of the population, that can't live in the
capitalist system and is inventing other mode of survivance and development.

The 60 percents of the population I am talking about are the ones Indymedia
has been built for; in Argentina, the people that have sympathies for
Indymedia are out of the capitalist system, excluding it and excluded from
it, some of them work on a daily basis to destroy it.

How would they manage to give money, computers, cameras, video cameras,
films, batteries, network cables or hubs ? They are striving to have clean
water to drink or comestible food to eat. The donations imc-arg receives
are composed of what people sometimes have, that maybe food and mate.
Money, no.

The respect and brotherhood people show to indymedia activists in protest
has no financial counterpart, the people that protest and walk in the
streets, the people of the various MTD, Asembleas and decent politicalmovement can't gave us the money they don't have. Should they have the money
they need, our IMC would pack every day stocks of cameras and computers to
send to others IMCs in the need.

> On the other hand, we're all aware of what happened to the
> argentine banks.

Banks are fine. People here, including most of the medium class, don't have
bank accounts and didn't have bank account when the coralito stroke. The
victims of the so called coralito where people that have thousands of
dollars of savings, aka ahoristas, which are not known to be a public of
IMC Argentina.


The international money that has been send before has been burnt in writing
parts of the 68,000 articles of Indymedia Argentina, buying computers to
publish and internet connections and repair the hardware have broken.
It is likely that one or two pizza have been bought also.

Assuming she has a work, an Argentinian is likely to earn 10 pesos per day,
thats 2.74 us dollars, the same price as a 36-pictures photo film.
Alternatively , with 10 pesos, she can buy 5 batteries to feed a digital
camera some hours. Amazingly, that the money my flatmate earned before she
got fired from her job last week, as she took the photos of the last
repression here (friday) she now need to devolve the 10 fucking pesos to
who gave her the 36-photo film.

I can't believe i am writing this to support a 500 us dollars donation.
Have a look at the site.