[Imc-finance] Proposals A & B -- the final lap:

Luis corporatecrackdown at yahoo.com.br
Fri Jul 12 08:43:03 2002


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CMI Belo Horizonte agrees with both proposals.

Cheers,
Luis,
CMI-BH, Brasil.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sascha Meinrath" <sascha@ucimc.org>
To: <imc-finance@indymedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:33 PM
Subject: [Imc-finance] Proposals A & B -- the final lap:


> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been in and out of my town, state, and country multiple times over
> the last month and haven't had time to complete the facilitation of
these
> two proposals.  I apologize for the slowdown this has caused.  We now
need
> to finish the process of passing these two proposals.
>
> We had left the process with agreement on most of the general outline
for
> each proposal, but still needed to work out a few of the details on both
> proposals.  Below is a synopsis of outstanding issues that need
resolving.
> Once all these concerns are addressed, we can consider the proposals
> passed.
>
> These two proposals have been on the table since May 14, 2002.  Because
of
> the large number of responses the proposals have garnered, there are
areas
> where people have not agreed on specific solutions.  The proposed
> resolutions below are compromises based on the various stakeholders'
> positions that I hope will be mutually satisfactory.
>
> Please take a few minutes to look everything over.  And please keep in
> mind that the process we are utilizing will work best if people work
> collaboratively and constructively with other stakeholders in the
> decision.  Whenever possible, I have included proposed ammendments in
> their entirety; however, when members of the IMC Finance Working Group
> disagree I have attempted to address both party's concerns in the
> solution.
>
> If you have raised a concern and are comfortable with the way it is
being
> addressed, please lend your support to the proposals.  I have set the
> decision-deadline for July 17, 2002, so if there are no objections by
> then, we can consider the proposals passed.
>
> The proposals are housed at:
>
>
http://kropotkin.indymedia.org/moin/moin.cgi/FinanceWorkingGroupSummary#pr
eview
>
> ******************
> OUTSTANDING ISSUES:
> ******************
>
> Translation:
>
> PROBLEM:  to ensure global representation on finance decisions,
> translations of proposals need to be made in a timely fashion.
>
> SOLUTION: all timelines for proposal decision-deadlines will begin 3
days
> after the proposal is sent to the translation list.  Authors of
proposals
> are responsible for sending the proposal to the translation list.
>
> ***
>
> Proposal A time-frame:
>
> PROBLEM:  Multiple participants want anywhere from 1-week to 1-month
> discussion periods for proposals.
>
> SOLUTION: 2-week discussion-period and week-long discussion-period
> extensions which may be requested by participating IMCs.
>
> ***
>
> Proposal B >$500 timeframe:
>
> PROBLEM:  Multiple participants want anywhere from 1-week to 1-month
> discussion periods with anywhere from 2-day to 1-week extensions.
>
> SOLUTION: 2-week discussion-period and week-long discussion-period
> extensions which may be requested by participating IMCs.
>
> ***
>
> Proposal B Sunset Clause:
>
> PROBLEM: Atlanta IMC has suggested a sunset clause for the proposal of
> July 31, 2002.  Multiple stakeholders do not want a sunset clause.
>
> SOLUTION: First pass the proposals as ammended during the process with
the
> understanding that a sunset clause will be discussed immediately
> following as our first possible ammendment.
>
> ***
>
> I am very hopeful that these proposed solutions will address the
concerns
> of participants and allow us to move forward as an empowered working
group
> of the Global IMC Network.
>
> As always, your comments are welcome and encouraged,
>
> In solidarity,
>
> --Sascha Meinrath
> Urbana-Champaign IMC
>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CMI Belo Horizonte&nbsp;agrees with =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Luis,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CMI-BH, Brasil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Sascha Meinrath" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sascha@ucimc.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>sascha@ucimc.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:imc-finance@indymedia.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>imc-finance@indymedia.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:33 =
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: [Imc-finance] Proposals A =
&amp; B -- the=20
final lap:</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt; Hi everyone,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I've been in and out of my =
town,=20
state, and country multiple times over<BR>&gt; the last month and =
haven't had=20
time to complete the facilitation of these<BR>&gt; two proposals.&nbsp; =
I=20
apologize for the slowdown this has caused.&nbsp; We now need<BR>&gt; to =
finish=20
the process of passing these two proposals.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; We had left =
the=20
process with agreement on most of the general outline for<BR>&gt; each =
proposal,=20
but still needed to work out a few of the details on both<BR>&gt;=20
proposals.&nbsp; Below is a synopsis of outstanding issues that need=20
resolving.<BR>&gt; Once all these concerns are addressed, we can =
consider the=20
proposals<BR>&gt; passed.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; These two proposals have been =
on the=20
table since May 14, 2002.&nbsp; Because of<BR>&gt; the large number of =
responses=20
the proposals have garnered, there are areas<BR>&gt; where people have =
not=20
agreed on specific solutions.&nbsp; The proposed<BR>&gt; resolutions =
below are=20
compromises based on the various stakeholders'<BR>&gt; positions that I =
hope=20
will be mutually satisfactory.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please take a few =
minutes to=20
look everything over.&nbsp; And please keep in<BR>&gt; mind that the =
process we=20
are utilizing will work best if people work<BR>&gt; collaboratively and=20
constructively with other stakeholders in the<BR>&gt; decision.&nbsp; =
Whenever=20
possible, I have included proposed ammendments in<BR>&gt; their =
entirety;=20
however, when members of the IMC Finance Working Group<BR>&gt; disagree =
I have=20
attempted to address both party's concerns in the<BR>&gt; =
solution.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; If you have raised a concern and are comfortable with the way =
it is=20
being<BR>&gt; addressed, please lend your support to the =
proposals.&nbsp; I have=20
set the<BR>&gt; decision-deadline for July 17, 2002, so if there are no=20
objections by<BR>&gt; then, we can consider the proposals =
passed.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; The proposals are housed at:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; </FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://kropotkin.indymedia.org/moin/moin.cgi/FinanceWorkingGroupS=
ummary#preview"><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://kropotkin.indymedia.org/moin/moin.cgi/FinanceWorkingGroup=
Summary#preview</FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; ******************<BR>&gt; =
OUTSTANDING=20
ISSUES:<BR>&gt; ******************<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Translation:<BR>&gt; =

<BR>&gt; PROBLEM:&nbsp; to ensure global representation on finance=20
decisions,<BR>&gt; translations of proposals need to be made in a timely =

fashion.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; SOLUTION: all timelines for proposal=20
decision-deadlines will begin 3 days<BR>&gt; after the proposal is sent =
to the=20
translation list.&nbsp; Authors of proposals<BR>&gt; are responsible for =
sending=20
the proposal to the translation list.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ***<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
Proposal A time-frame:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; PROBLEM:&nbsp; Multiple =
participants=20
want anywhere from 1-week to 1-month<BR>&gt; discussion periods for=20
proposals.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; SOLUTION: 2-week discussion-period and =
week-long=20
discussion-period<BR>&gt; extensions which may be requested by =
participating=20
IMCs.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ***<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Proposal B &gt;$500=20
timeframe:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; PROBLEM:&nbsp; Multiple participants want =
anywhere=20
from 1-week to 1-month<BR>&gt; discussion periods with anywhere from =
2-day to=20
1-week extensions.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; SOLUTION: 2-week discussion-period =
and=20
week-long discussion-period<BR>&gt; extensions which may be requested by =

participating IMCs.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ***<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Proposal B =
Sunset=20
Clause:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; PROBLEM: Atlanta IMC has suggested a sunset =
clause for=20
the proposal of<BR>&gt; July 31, 2002.&nbsp; Multiple stakeholders do =
not want a=20
sunset clause.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; SOLUTION: First pass the proposals as =
ammended=20
during the process with the<BR>&gt; understanding that a sunset clause =
will be=20
discussed immediately<BR>&gt; following as our first possible=20
ammendment.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ***<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I am very hopeful that =
these=20
proposed solutions will address the concerns<BR>&gt; of participants and =
allow=20
us to move forward as an empowered working group<BR>&gt; of the Global =
IMC=20
Network.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; As always, your comments are welcome and=20
encouraged,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; In solidarity,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --Sascha=20
Meinrath<BR>&gt; Urbana-Champaign IMC<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20
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