[Imc-finance] Ford Foundation -- clarifications from the UCIMC:

Luis Luis" <luis at indymedia.org
Mon Sep 16 03:13:06 2002


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(I tried to send this message a while ago but it was held for approval. So
I'm sending it again.)

Hi Sascha and all,

There are a couple of things I don't understand.

You said the money isn't going to be donated to the Indymedia Network as a
whole, but to the UC IMC instead. But isn't the money been SPECIFICALLY
donated for funding meetings between the various IMCs on the Indymedia
Network? Because, if it’s the case, then I think (and I'm sure I can speak
for the entire CMI Belo Horizonte collective) that this decision should be
taken by ALL the IMCs that are going to be part of those meetings and not
by the UC IMC, since they are not the only ones who are going to make use
of that money. Could you please explain it to me? Is the money being
donated specifically to fund meetings between IMCs or is it just an idea
of how we could use that money?

And the other thing is, even though I totally agree that local IMCs should
not have veto power over other IMCs projects and decissions, I believe
that each IMC has to know that they are part of a network and that they
decisions can sometimes have a negative impact on some other or even
several other IMCs. I respect the UC IMC autonomy just like I respect the
CMI BH autonomy, but since this donation can have a negative impact on
other IMCs, specially on IMC Argentina, I think we should definitely talk
this issue over and over and over again until we can reach a consensus
about it. Until then, I think no decision should be made about accepting
or not this donation.

Cheers (and sorry about my poor english),
Luis,
CMI BH.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sascha Meinrath" <sascha@ucimc.org>
To: <imc-finance@indymedia.org>; <imc-process@indymedia.org>;
<encuentros@indymedia.org>
Cc: <finance@ucimc.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:39 PM
Subject: [Imc-finance] Ford Foundation -- clarifications from the UCIMC:


> Hi everyone,
>
> In an effort to diffuse some of the miscommunication going around I
wanted
> to clarify a few things.  Many active IMC participants have been working
> on the Ford Foundation grant for many months.  A group of Indymedia
> activists formed an autonomous affinity group to do this.  In addition,
> this group, "encuentros," affiliated with the Urbana-Champaign IMC to
help
> get funding to support IMC organizing and communication.
>

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Sascha and all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are a couple of things I don't=20
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Indymedia Network as a whole, but to the UC IMC instead. But isn't the =
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been SPECIFICALLY donated for funding meetings between the various IMCs =
on the=20
Indymedia Network? Because, if it=92s the case, then I think (and I'm =
sure I can=20
speak for the entire CMI Belo Horizonte collective) that this decision =
should be=20
taken by ALL the IMCs that are going to be part of those meetings and =
not by the=20
UC IMC, since they are not the only ones who are going to make use of =
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money. Could you please explain it to me? Is the money being=20
donated&nbsp;specifically to fund meetings between&nbsp;IMCs or is it =
just an=20
idea of how we could use that money?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And the other thing is, even though I =
totally agree=20
that local IMCs should not have veto power over other IMCs projects and=20
decissions, I believe that each IMC has to know that they are part of a =
network=20
and that they decisions can sometimes have a negative impact on some =
other or=20
even several other IMCs. I respect the UC IMC autonomy just like I =
respect the=20
CMI BH autonomy, but since this donation can have a negative impact on =
other=20
IMCs, specially on IMC Argentina, I think we should definitely talk this =
issue=20
over and over and over again until we can reach a consensus about it. =
Until=20
then, I think no decision should be made about accepting or not this=20
donation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers (and sorry about my poor=20
english),<BR>Luis,<BR>CMI BH.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- =
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Sascha Meinrath" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sascha@ucimc.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>sascha@ucimc.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:imc-finance@indymedia.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>imc-finance@indymedia.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt;;=20
&lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:imc-process@indymedia.org"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>imc-process@indymedia.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt;;=20
&lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:encuentros@indymedia.org"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>encuentros@indymedia.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cc: &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:finance@ucimc.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>finance@ucimc.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:39=20
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: [Imc-finance] Ford Foundation =
--=20
clarifications from the UCIMC:</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt; Hi everyone,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; In an effort to diffuse some =
of the=20
miscommunication going around I wanted<BR>&gt; to clarify a few =
things.&nbsp;=20
Many active IMC participants have been working<BR>&gt; on the Ford =
Foundation=20
grant for many months.&nbsp; A group of Indymedia<BR>&gt; activists =
formed an=20
autonomous affinity group to do this.&nbsp; In addition,<BR>&gt; this =
group,=20
"encuentros," affiliated with the Urbana-Champaign IMC to help<BR>&gt; =
get=20
funding to support IMC organizing and communication.<BR>&gt;=20
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