[Imc-finance] Fwd: Re: [imc-wsf] IMC-SEATTLE ON BRASIL PROPOSAL 2003-C
Sheri Herndon
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Mon Jan 13 14:05:05 2003
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>Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:49:17 -0300
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>Hi Sheri
>Here it is Miguel, from rio de janeiro collective and Carol, from
>porto alegre collective.
>It is important to say that these are our personal opinions.
>We=B4ll comment your message topic by topic.
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>Sheri Herndon wrote:
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>>hi everyone,
>>
>>seattle imc has discussed all these proposals in a general meeting
>>and on-line with the spokescouncil. as with imc-athens there were
>>a number of questions which came up regarding the brasil proposal.
>>we are hoping that someone from imc-brasil could help clarify a few
>>points.
>>
>>rio proposal:
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>>we are fully supportive of the rio proposal for the video
>>projector. we do alot of screenings in seattle and recognize how
>>valuable this can be for community building and organizing.
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>thanks a lot
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>>imc-brasil proposal:
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>>like imc-athens, the seattle imc collective does not want to block
>>the larger imc-brasil proposal and in general is very supportive of
>>this proposal. but want to share a few comments and questions.
>>there were several stand-asides with regard to this proposal, but
>>the general collective wants to see imc-brasil be supported.
>>
>>these are the collective concerns and comments:
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>>1. the amount is approximately 10% of the global fund and we have
>>no criteria for disbursement and no plans for how to raise money
>>once the global account balance is zero.
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>we agree that is too much money and intend to have money to turn back.
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>>2. concerns about leasing equipment for cost reasons, but also
>>acknowledged that the importance and timing of WSF was a suffcient
>>reason to do it anyway.
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>we agree about this topic. the wsf is an opportunity that we cannot waste.
>
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>>3. there was concern that there seems to be no local contribution
>>in the proposal and a request was made for more information
>>regarding local contribution. it was expressed that it is
>>important for each local to focus on how to make their own
>>collectives sustainable and not rely exclusively on the limited
>>funds from the global network.
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>we agree that each local has to make their own collectives
>sutainable, not relying on the funds. we don=B4t rely on the funds. we
>have sent this proposal because we believe that this is a great
>opportunity to structure our network and to grow.
>we should remind that receiving donations here is not as easy as it
>happens on the US. people here generally do not donate. the only
>donations we have are the ones done by ourselves, to go ahead with
>our projects. each of us that can afford coming to porto alegre,
>will come with his/her own money, and not asking to the fund. we are
>asking money for the ones that cannot come, to guarantee that the
>meeting will be representative. I (Miguel) came to porto alegre to
>help to organize our work and i=B4m paying the costs of one month
>staying here with my own money.
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>>4. requests for funding were requested from imc-communication
>>liaisons, and people coming to porto alegre will be asked to
>>support the efforts. if additional funds are raised, would those
>>funds be reimbursed to the global network since those would be
>>additional funds.
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>we totally agree with this and since we had noticed the amount of
>the costs we decides to try to get money to send back. to have this
>money, we are stimulating the volunteers that will sleep in the
>building to pay more than the 3 dollars that it costs. we hope that
>with that we can get some money. we believe that with these small
>donations we can have a great amount.
>
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>>5. there didn't seem to be alot of information about the
>>imc-brasil national meeting. the proposal seemed to be focussed on
>>wsf planning and yet the request specified needing to have a
>>national meeting. it was also discussed that this networking
>>meeting for imc-brasil is very exciting and the rest of the network
>>could learn alot from observing this process. people expressed
>>interest in documentation of this meeting and was there any
>>discussion going on about the organizing for this meeting, since
>>that was what the proposal mentions.
>
>we didn=B4t send a lot of information because it is mainly to meet
>each other and follow the discussions we have on the net, because we
>believe that this would be a more productive way. the imc brazil
>network improved its organization a lot in the last year, but at
>this moment, we consider that is very important to meet ourselves
>face to face. the wsf is a great opportunity, because many of the
>volunteers will be in porto alegre, reducing the costs, because we
>just have to pay to some more volunteers.
>we agree that is an exciting opportunity and that many of the
>discussions can help the rest of the network.
>we also propose that we have a global meeting there. not to make
>decisions, but to exchange opinions and develop proposals to discuss
>with the rest of the network.
>
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>>We are supportive of this proposal and also hope someone from
>>imc-brasil can answer our questions.
>>
>>sheri
>>seattle imc
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>we hope we could clarify these topics with this message and we thank
>your support.
>
>miguel and carol.
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