[Imc-finance] Proposal to not fund more bandwidth expenses [ en | es ]

[evan]

Versi=F3n en espa=F1ol mas adelante:

Summary:
	First, i'm not a liaison, and i do not want to change the just =
passed
	request. That said, I propose that we develop a policy regarding
	requests to use global funds for bandwidth costs in the future.
	Paying for bandwidth is a money sink hole and not sustainable.

Resumen:
	En primer lugar, no soy un enlace, y no quiero cambiar la =
solicitud
	que acaba de aprobarse. Habiendo dicho eso, propongo que =
desarrollemos
	una pol=EDtica relativa a las solicitudes de dinero global para =
cubrir
	costos de ancho de banda en el futuro. Pagar por ancho de banda =
es
	tirar la plata,  y no es sustentable.

I'm not at the moment a liaison, and this is why i didn't say anything =20=

during the vancouver proposal. This email is about trying to determine =20=

future policy, not reflecting on the direct merits of the Vancouver =20
proposal.

But i do want to express a concern and ask that imc-finance consider =20
coming up with some more forward looking plan when it comes to funding =20=

bandwidth. I personally think this is a bad policy.

By encouraging people to use paid and expensive bandwidth by giving =20
them imc global funds we are encouraging people to revert to a strict =20=

capitalist model of purchasing services. There are many many ways to =20
host servers which require a little more creativity such as hosting =20
them with people who work at isp's or getting donated server space. We =20=

could also encourage imc's to do what portland has done by creating a =20=

network of servers based on people's home dsl lines around the city.

Paying for hosting is a recurring cost. When we use global funds to do =20=

that we not using our money efficiently. For example many imc's have =20
either chosen to squat offices, or to get their offices donated from =20
another organization. Some imc's have found a different way of =20
sustaining their space by raising the one time capital funds for =20
purchasing a building. They then use the resource, the space, to =20
develop local and self sustained funding.

There are many ways to fund servers. Paying commercial rates should be =20=

strongly discouraged. Can we consider coming up with a plan on how to =20=

deal with this type of request in the future? I would say that we do =20
not fund any requests unless the requesting group can demonstrate that =20=

they had made significant effort at finding free hosting and exactly =20
why they failed.

Sigue versi=F3n en espa=F1ol:
En este momento no soy un enlace,  y es por eso que no dije nada sobre =20=

la
propuesta de Vancouver. Este mensaje es para intentar determinar la =20
pol=EDtica
futura, no una reflexi=F3n sobre los m=E9ritos directos de la propuesta =
de
Vancouver.

Pero quiero expresar una preocupaci=F3n y pedir a imc finanzas que =20
consideren
planes que miren m=E1s hacia adelante a la hora de financiar ancho de =20=

banda.
Personalmente creo que esta es una mala pol=EDtica.

Al alentar a la gente a usar ancho de banda, paga y cara, d=E1ndoles =20
fondos de
imc global, los estamos alentando a adoptar un modelo de compra de =20
servicios
estrictamente capitalista. Hay muchas maneras de alojar servidores, que
requieren un poquito m=E1s de imaginaci=F3n, como aloj=E1ndolos con =
gente que
trabaja en ISP, o conseguir una donaci=F3n de espacio en un servidor. =20=

Tambi=E9n
podr=EDamos alentar a los imc a hacer lo que ha hecho Portland, creando =20=

una
red de servidores basada en las l=EDneas dsl dom=E9sticas de personas de =
la
ciudad.

Pagar por ese alojamiento es un costo recurrente. Cuando utilizamos =20
fondos
globales para eso, no estamos usando nuestro dinero de forma eficiente. =20=

Por
ejemplo, muchos imc han elegido ocupar locales, o montar sus locales en
espacios donados por otras organizaciones. Algunos imc han encontrado =20=

una
manera distinta de mantener sus espacios juntando los fondos para =20
comprar un
local, cosa que solo se hace una vez. Luego utilizan el recurso, el =20
espacio,
para conseguir fondos locales y autosustentables.

Hay muchas formas de financiar servidores. Habr=EDa que desalentar
vehementemente el pago de tarifas comerciales. =BFPodr=EDamos considerar =
=20
idear
un plan sobre el modo de tratar este tipo de solicitud en el futuro? Yo
dir=EDa que no financi=E1ramos m=E1s solicitudes salvo que el grupo que =
hace =20
la
solicitud pueda demostrar que hayan hecho esfuerzos significativos para
encontrar alojamiento gratuito, y por qu=E9 exactamente no lo lograron.


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