[Imc-finance] Re:"....thiscollective process here onimc-finance"

[blue.pi]

Petros Evdokas writes: 

>
> Sheri Herndon writes: 
>
>> hi everyone, 
>>
> .....can
> we simply do this and apologize for taking such a long time to respond to
> this proposal that went through the regular process.
> ......we obviously need to have more people participating in this
> collective process here on imc-finance! 
>
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> Hello, 
>
> Sheri is right of course. 
>
> There were many opportunities to expand the base of this imc-finance work- group which we missed because of our reluctance to deal with the politics involved, especially issues of collectivity versus individualism. Also, as a group, we tend to accept the domination of the "bookeeping approach" among us, instead of seeing that we supposed to be an instrument which should oversee the fair distribution (and enlargement) of the funds donated to IndyMedia. These funds were donated
> for *political* reasons - those reasons should also be guiding us to the work of the finances group. 
>
> We can still generate more opportunities to re-align the work of the imc-finances work group. It *is* possible to accept our direction was mistaken, and to re-orient ourselves. Sheri  and I have written several texts in these last two years, filled with suggestions on how to organise and maintain our financial process. It's easy to look them up, to update them, correct any errors, and use them to move on. Please have a look at them in the finances archives.

Maybe you wrote too many. I don't find it easy to look up texts in the 
archive, cause of slow internet and I only have internet at work. 
Nevertheless, I did read through mostly all the stuff that is linked to from 
the twicki page. 

It's a lot and not all of it is relevant and then it still doesn't tell me 
what I could do. I find the twicki pages e.g. for NewImc much better 
organized. 

And I don't think anybody who I have encountered so far on this list is 
reluctant to talk politics - at least in other circles they aren't. But 
financing is usually a pretty dry and bureaucratic thing. If it shouldn't be 
in imc then that definitly needs to become more clear on the twicki - cause 
from reading that I got the impression that it works pretty much like other 
financing groups. 

So if you want to discuss politics here, maybe you should add that to the 
twicki. 

Another thing: communication seems pretty dead to me. 

blue 

>
> We will need to overcome our reluctance to talking politics, and to reduce our tendency of seeing everything as just a bookeeping issue. 
>
> The most important step should be to begin introducing to the imc-communications group (group of imc Liaisons)  the dilemmas, the thoughts, the guiding principles, and the process of the imc-finance group, and to do our best to win over a few active Liaisons from other imc groups from around the globe, who will us to do our work better. 
>
> I know that most of you would agree that we should have a higher representation from imc groups around the world outside of the United States. Lets' try to make that a reality. 
>
> Petros
>  http://PetrosEvdokas.cjb.net
> volunteer,
> http://Cyprus.IndyMedia.org
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