[Imc-finance] Request for support of the Dakar Conference

[Liber Tinus]

hola jay!!! tanto tiempo How are you? send me a private email!!

When I saw the email, it was sending to a lot of lists, so I didn't think that
was a oficial propostal. I didn't talk with my colective. 

Cuando vi el correo no pensé que fuera una propuesta oficial a la lista porque
tenia demasiados destinatarios. No hablé del tema con el colectivo.

This amout it's only the travel ticket? Its a lot of money for use in people
only. In africa or Latinamerica with this money we can do a lot of thing for a year.

¿Este dinero es solo para pasajes? es mucho dinero para financiar personas
solamente. En africa o america latina podemos hacer  muchas cosas con todo ese
dinero.

I will talk with the collective, but Jay all propostal must be in two languages.
please. :)

Voy a hablar con el colectivo, pero Jay todas las propuestas deberian estar en 2
idiomas. por favor. :)

Exists a spanish version? castellano? 

un abrazo.

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Liber Tinus
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Mensaje citado por Jay <jaypsand en yahoo.com>:

| Hi imc-finance (and imc-africa by cc),
| 
| This is Jay from IMC Philadelphia.  Some of you may know me, others may 
| not.  Hello to everyone.
| 
| I've recently started to support imc-africa group in its attempt to raise 
| some money to support the travel of African delegates to the upcoming 
| conference in Senegal.  I haven't been on imc-fiance for a while, but I 
| understand Sphinx sent a request for funds.  I also have seen Joeri's below
| 
| reply asking for clarification and expressing some concern about the amount
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| of money requested.
| 
| I e-mailed imc-africa with the below idea a few days ago and haven't heard 
| any dissent.  I don't know the current process on imc-finance but I would 
| love for someone who does to help work this into a proposal.  Plus, we need
| 
| to act on this SOON.  The conference is scheduled for March 1-14 and I'm 
| pretty sure most delegates will have to get visas, or at least make plane 
| reservations as soon as possible.
| 
| Here's the idea.  Right now imc-africa has a great list of delegates 
| intending to come from around Africa.  Some IMCs, even forming IMCs, are 
| interested in sending more than one, which is great . . . and expensive.  I
| 
| think we all should do our best to get at least one person from each IMC to
| 
| be able to come to Senegal.
| 
| What do people on imc-finance think of imc-africa asking formally for 
| enough money to get at least one person from each of the interested IMC 
| groups to get to the conference?  Then we could have a firm, more 
| manageable amount.
| 
| That would be, according to Sphinx's estimates:
| 
| 1from South Africa  = 877 Euro
| 1 from Ambazonia =   750 Euro
| 1 from Congo =         1200 Euro
| 1 from Angola =        1100  Euro
| 1 from Kenya =          1100 Euro
| 1 from Madiaq =            450 Euro
| 
| Total:   5477 Euro
| 
| Plus, 533 Euro to help pay for expenses in Senegal.  Total = 6000 Euro.
| 
| If imc-finance would release 6000 Euro to pay for the tickets that will 
| assure the conference will have representation from at least 6 African 
| IMCs, plus Senegal.  That will be a great stride forward for African 
| indymedia organizing!
| 
| As for the fear from imc-finance that imc-africa is asking for too much, 
| perhaps imc-africa can pay back imc-finance "33 cents on the 
| dollar."  Meaning, if imc-africa independently raises 9,000 Euro toward the
| 
| conference, they'll pay imc-finance back 3000 Euro of what they lent.  If 
| they raise 15000 Euro they'll pay back 5000 Euro.  In other words, 
| imc-finance will be able to assure some level of success at an essential 
| Indymedia conference but at the same time we will all make sure imc-finance
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| doesn't have to be afraid imc-africa will drain all its money.
| 
| How does this sound?
| 
| Jay
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