[Imc-finance] Request for support of the Dakar Conference

Liber Tinus libertino at indymedia.org
Wed Feb 4 03:42:30 PST 2004


Im making now in spanish  castellano

vato loco, un desmadre.


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Liber Tinus
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Mensaje citado por Joeri <joeri en indymedia.org>:

| hey,
| 
| if anyone is interested in translating the proposal (or a summary of 
| it): http://translations.indymedia.org/Translations/1075876560/index_html
| (i put french to do as well as it is widely spoken in africa)
| 
| greets
| joeri
| 
| Liber Tinus wrote:
| 
| >hola jay!!! tanto tiempo How are you? send me a private email!!
| >
| >When I saw the email, it was sending to a lot of lists, so I didn't think
| that
| >was a oficial propostal. I didn't talk with my colective. 
| >
| >Cuando vi el correo no pensé que fuera una propuesta oficial a la lista
| porque
| >tenia demasiados destinatarios. No hablé del tema con el colectivo.
| >
| >This amout it's only the travel ticket? Its a lot of money for use in
| people
| >only. In africa or Latinamerica with this money we can do a lot of thing for
| a year.
| >
| >¿Este dinero es solo para pasajes? es mucho dinero para financiar personas
| >solamente. En africa o america latina podemos hacer  muchas cosas con todo
| ese
| >dinero.
| >
| >I will talk with the collective, but Jay all propostal must be in two
| languages.
| >please. :)
| >
| >Voy a hablar con el colectivo, pero Jay todas las propuestas deberian estar
| en 2
| >idiomas. por favor. :)
| >
| >Exists a spanish version? castellano? 
| >
| >un abrazo.
| >
| >----------------------------------
| >Liber Tinus
| >http://www.fotolog.net/libertino/
| >http://www.libertino.tk
| >http://uruguay.indymedia.org
| >
| >
| >Mensaje citado por Jay <jaypsand en yahoo.com>:
| >
| >| Hi imc-finance (and imc-africa by cc),
| >| 
| >| This is Jay from IMC Philadelphia.  Some of you may know me, others may 
| >| not.  Hello to everyone.
| >| 
| >| I've recently started to support imc-africa group in its attempt to raise
| 
| >| some money to support the travel of African delegates to the upcoming 
| >| conference in Senegal.  I haven't been on imc-fiance for a while, but I 
| >| understand Sphinx sent a request for funds.  I also have seen Joeri's
| below
| >| 
| >| reply asking for clarification and expressing some concern about the
| amount
| >| 
| >| of money requested.
| >| 
| >| I e-mailed imc-africa with the below idea a few days ago and haven't heard
| 
| >| any dissent.  I don't know the current process on imc-finance but I would
| 
| >| love for someone who does to help work this into a proposal.  Plus, we
| need
| >| 
| >| to act on this SOON.  The conference is scheduled for March 1-14 and I'm
| 
| >| pretty sure most delegates will have to get visas, or at least make plane
| 
| >| reservations as soon as possible.
| >| 
| >| Here's the idea.  Right now imc-africa has a great list of delegates 
| >| intending to come from around Africa.  Some IMCs, even forming IMCs, are
| 
| >| interested in sending more than one, which is great . . . and expensive. 
| I
| >| 
| >| think we all should do our best to get at least one person from each IMC
| to
| >| 
| >| be able to come to Senegal.
| >| 
| >| What do people on imc-finance think of imc-africa asking formally for 
| >| enough money to get at least one person from each of the interested IMC 
| >| groups to get to the conference?  Then we could have a firm, more 
| >| manageable amount.
| >| 
| >| That would be, according to Sphinx's estimates:
| >| 
| >| 1from South Africa  = 877 Euro
| >| 1 from Ambazonia =   750 Euro
| >| 1 from Congo =         1200 Euro
| >| 1 from Angola =        1100  Euro
| >| 1 from Kenya =          1100 Euro
| >| 1 from Madiaq =            450 Euro
| >| 
| >| Total:   5477 Euro
| >| 
| >| Plus, 533 Euro to help pay for expenses in Senegal.  Total = 6000 Euro.
| >| 
| >| If imc-finance would release 6000 Euro to pay for the tickets that will 
| >| assure the conference will have representation from at least 6 African 
| >| IMCs, plus Senegal.  That will be a great stride forward for African 
| >| indymedia organizing!
| >| 
| >| As for the fear from imc-finance that imc-africa is asking for too much,
| 
| >| perhaps imc-africa can pay back imc-finance "33 cents on the 
| >| dollar."  Meaning, if imc-africa independently raises 9,000 Euro toward
| the
| >| 
| >| conference, they'll pay imc-finance back 3000 Euro of what they lent.  If
| 
| >| they raise 15000 Euro they'll pay back 5000 Euro.  In other words, 
| >| imc-finance will be able to assure some level of success at an essential
| 
| >| Indymedia conference but at the same time we will all make sure
| imc-finance
| >| 
| >| doesn't have to be afraid imc-africa will drain all its money.
| >| 
| >| How does this sound?
| >| 
| >| Jay
| >| 
| >| 
| >| 
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