[Imc-finance] Proposal 2004-B Dakar Conference request 7551$

Joeri joeri at indymedia.org
Wed Feb 4 10:35:12 PST 2004


Correction of the proposal: it is 7551 USD (i made a currency mistake)

Joeri wrote:

> Posted: 4th of feb '04
> discussion period 4-18 feb (but i'll ask sphinx what (s)he thinks 
> about deadline)
> Decision deadline 18th of Feb
>
> Jay: i guess the process is still the same as about a year ago; and i 
> agree on the proposal
>
> Sphinx: what is the ultimate deadline for getting in that money
>
> the proposal will be send to translationtool for spanish and french in 
> a minute
>
> greets
> joeri
>
> Jay wrote:
>
>> Hi imc-finance (and imc-africa by cc),
>>
>> This is Jay from IMC Philadelphia.  Some of you may know me, others 
>> may not.  Hello to everyone.
>>
>> I've recently started to support imc-africa group in its attempt to 
>> raise some money to support the travel of African delegates to the 
>> upcoming conference in Senegal.  I haven't been on imc-fiance for a 
>> while, but I understand Sphinx sent a request for funds.  I also have 
>> seen Joeri's below reply asking for clarification and expressing some 
>> concern about the amount of money requested.
>>
>> I e-mailed imc-africa with the below idea a few days ago and haven't 
>> heard any dissent.  I don't know the current process on imc-finance 
>> but I would love for someone who does to help work this into a 
>> proposal.  Plus, we need to act on this SOON.  The conference is 
>> scheduled for March 1-14 and I'm pretty sure most delegates will have 
>> to get visas, or at least make plane reservations as soon as possible.
>>
>> Here's the idea.  Right now imc-africa has a great list of delegates 
>> intending to come from around Africa.  Some IMCs, even forming IMCs, 
>> are interested in sending more than one, which is great . . . and 
>> expensive.  I think we all should do our best to get at least one 
>> person from each IMC to be able to come to Senegal.
>>
>> What do people on imc-finance think of imc-africa asking formally for 
>> enough money to get at least one person from each of the interested 
>> IMC groups to get to the conference?  Then we could have a firm, more 
>> manageable amount.
>>
>> That would be, according to Sphinx's estimates:
>>
>> 1from South Africa  = 877 Euro
>> 1 from Ambazonia =   750 Euro
>> 1 from Congo =         1200 Euro
>> 1 from Angola =        1100  Euro
>> 1 from Kenya =          1100 Euro
>> 1 from Madiaq =            450 Euro
>>
>> Total:   5477 Euro
>>
>> Plus, 533 Euro to help pay for expenses in Senegal.  Total = 6000 Euro.
>>
>> If imc-finance would release 6000 Euro to pay for the tickets that 
>> will assure the conference will have representation from at least 6 
>> African IMCs, plus Senegal.  That will be a great stride forward for 
>> African indymedia organizing!
>>
>> As for the fear from imc-finance that imc-africa is asking for too 
>> much, perhaps imc-africa can pay back imc-finance "33 cents on the 
>> dollar."  Meaning, if imc-africa independently raises 9,000 Euro 
>> toward the conference, they'll pay imc-finance back 3000 Euro of what 
>> they lent.  If they raise 15000 Euro they'll pay back 5000 Euro.  In 
>> other words, imc-finance will be able to assure some level of success 
>> at an essential Indymedia conference but at the same time we will all 
>> make sure imc-finance doesn't have to be afraid imc-africa will drain 
>> all its money.
>>
>> How does this sound?
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>> At 1/30/2004, Joeri wrote:
>>
>>> hey,
>>>
>>> sorry to only reply this late
>>>
>>> i think it's needed to be more specific about the amount of money; i 
>>> know it's difficult to give an exact amount as you're still very 
>>> busy in fundraising, but for us it's even more difficult to set an 
>>> amount (therefore i didn't set it as a proposal yet)
>>>
>>> as on new year's day (this is the latest info i received) our bank 
>>> balance contained $21,679.15, but with still some donations to 
>>> process (at least $5,654),
>>> giving the biggest part of the needed money for the project would 
>>> have big consequences for imc-finance (altough i think this 
>>> conference is really important and i think it's very important that 
>>> we help getting the money together if needed)
>>>
>>> so i suggest to (if possible) try to get an idea of the amount still 
>>> needed, so we can put it in a proposal for finance
>>>
>>> other ideas on this?
>>>
>>> greets
>>> sorry for the delay
>>> joeri
>>>
>>>
>>> sphinx wrote:
>>>
>>>> Imc-Africa Working group is asking imc-finance to support with the 
>>>> fairs of the
>>>> African delegates, food and stationery for the Dakar Conference .
>>>> -In the coming days we'll continue with trying to raise funds 
>>>> through other
>>>> sources. We appeal to all the activts as well as imcs in this list 
>>>> to use their
>>>> know-how in helping us in this process of fund raising as well as 
>>>> spreading the
>>>> information to potential sources of support.
>>>> -We will implore the imc-finance working group to treat this as an 
>>>> application
>>>> for funds. That is 3days tranlation, 14days discussion(dateline is 
>>>> then 3rd
>>>> february2004).
>>>> All funds that we happen to get in the interim, we'll inform 
>>>> imc-finance about
>>>> and hope imc-finance  can  make up the needed amount. Every funds 
>>>> that We shall
>>>> get in the interim shall go first for the tickets.  This is all 
>>>> meant to
>>>> catch-up with time as most of the African delegates need to get 
>>>> visas to go to
>>>> Senegal.
>>>> -We are pleading with all imcs to put a temporary donation 
>>>> link(button) in this
>>>> respect on their various websites.
>>>>
>>>> Details:
>>>>
>>>> The Dakar Conference
>>>>
>>>> In the four years since indymedia started in Seattle in 1999, it  
>>>> has succeeded
>>>> to make a mostest impact on the media worlds as a whole and in the 
>>>> political
>>>> left scene in particular.
>>>> Much of the build-up have taken place in the global North thanks to 
>>>> the well
>>>> developed multimedia infrastructure. Which allows for both quick 
>>>> and cheap production of media content. Yet indymedias in South
>>>> America have made substantial progress despite poor multimedia 
>>>> infrastructure.
>>>> This characteristic growth being partly due to existing social support
>>>> structures developed over the years of social struggles in South 
>>>> America as well
>>>> as emphatic support of Global North Activists.
>>>> In Africa for lots of resons indymedia development has been very   
>>>> slow. To give
>>>> the indymedia growth process in Africa a push, the indymedia Africa 
>>>> working
>>>> group with other activists groups took upon Organising an 
>>>> Alternative(indymedia)
>>>> Conference in Dakar from the 1st to the 14th March 2004. Delegates 
>>>> will be coming from ; South Africa, Ambazonia (Ex-British Southern 
>>>> Cameroons), DRCongo, Angola, Kenya, Madiaq (South Spain and
>>>> Morocco), Nertherland, Germany, Switzerland, UK and USA. Three 
>>>> quarters of the
>>>> delegates will be from Africa. The main point of the Conference 
>>>> will be to exchange experiences and try to
>>>> figure-out the way forward with indymedia in Africa despite the 
>>>> lack of suitable
>>>> social support structures and multimedia infrastructure.
>>>> This undertaking is now threatened by the lack of funds to cover 
>>>> the fairs of
>>>> the African Delegates and basic needs for the conference . We are 
>>>> hereby soliciting for donations to support the Conference.
>>>> Donations can be sent by paypal.com to imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
>>>>
>>>> or by bank transfer to : Zentralkultur e.V Account No: 269 35 70 
>>>> BLZ/Bankcode     60050101 S.W.I.F.T-code   SOLASDEST Password: 
>>>> indymedia Africa Landesbank Baden-Wurttemberg Germany
>>>> For those who need  receipts for tax deductions please indicate by 
>>>> email to imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
>>>> We'll greatly appreciate any contribution no-matter how small . 
>>>> IMC-Africa Working group.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Update of the situation:
>>>> -Fair situation for the moment looks as follows:
>>>> 3South Africa = 877*3= 2631 Euro 3Ambazonia(Ex-British Southern 
>>>> Cameroons)=750*3= 2250 Euro 1 DRCongo =1200 Euro 2 Angola 
>>>> =1100*2=2200 Euro 3Kenya=1100*3=3300 Euro 2Madiaq(Spain and 
>>>> Morocco) = 450 *2=900 Euro Total= 12481 Euro
>>>>
>>>> -Feeding and stationery for the 14days of the conference will cost 
>>>> at least
>>>> 1300Euros.
>>>>
>>>> TOTAL=12481+1300=15481 Euros
>>>>
>>>> -Materials for use in workshops:
>>>> .Bak from Imc-ch is bring a computer with a portable content 
>>>> management system
>>>> and a host of other software. .Tony from imc-uk is also going to 
>>>> send us some videos and some other meterials.
>>>> In the worst case scenerio this may be all we may have like 
>>>> equipment ´; thus
>>>> the best way to increase the utility will be to connect them to a 
>>>> projector.
>>>> Thus we desperately need a projector as well as a printer.
>>>>
>>>> ---original list of needs was :
>>>>
>>>> -A beamer /projector
>>>> 1.-Five computers (at least) 2.-Three video recording machines and 
>>>> a video editting machine. 100 video
>>>> cassettes. 3.-Three mini-disc recorder/audio recording machines. 
>>>> 200 pieces of
>>>> mini-disc/tapes. 4.-Three printers. 5.-5 small radio transmitters. 
>>>> 6.- 10 video cassettes of films made by other indymedia video 
>>>> working groups to
>>>> be used in screening . Software needs 1.-We need to ask 
>>>> indymedia-tech to load the computers for use in the tour with
>>>> one of the many freesoftware Operating System. 2.-Need a portable 
>>>> version of an indymedia production system which allows
>>>> articles and other content to be published and produced on the 
>>>> computer without
>>>> internet connection. 3.-We need an easy to use audio editing 
>>>> program. 4.-We need an easy to use video editing program. 5.-We 
>>>> need an easy to use lay-out program.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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