[Imc-finance] sobre la propostal 2004-G Bolivia computers

[evan]

Just a short note, i've forwarded both of these replies to the  
indymedia bolivia list (cmi-bolivia at indymedia.org) to make sure they  
are in the loop about the discussion.

Una notita, envíe ambos de ese dos repuestas al lista de indymedia  
bolivia (cmi-bolivia at indymedia.org) para estar seguro ell at s saber sobre  
la discusión en imc-finance.

en solidaridad,
evan



On Jun 24, 2004, at 6:16 AM, timox timox wrote:

> [English Below]
>
> Hola a Tod at s,
> Tiros aqui desde Indymedia Chiapas.  Nosotr at s tambien
> en el colectivo de Indymedia Chiapas hemos discutido
> brevemente esta propuesta para computadoras para
> Bolivia.  Tambien nos presentan un par de dudas a
> cuales quisieramos aclaraciones si fuera posible.
>
> Querriamos mas detalles sobre, a quienes y de cuales
> colectivos de CMI Bolivia irian las compus.
>
> Que especificaciones tienen las maquinas que piensan
> enviar?  Nosotr at s tenemos bastante experiencia aqui en
> Chiapas de recibir maquinas obseletos que causan mas
> problemas y dolores de cabeza de lo que vale.
>
> Surgio la propuesta de comparar precios entre maquinas
> de especificaciones semejantes en Bolivia y Chile para
> ver si no se podria reciclar maquinas un poco mas
> cercanas.
>
> Tambien estamos de acuerdo con CMI-Uruguay en que
> pensamos que seria mejor buscar quienes de los
> colectivos del CMI Bolivia podria hacer la parte
> teknika y no enviar un tekie extranjero.
>
> Finalmente, quisieramos escuchar los pensamientos de
> la gente del CMI-Bolivia sobre la propuesta.
>
> Gracias por considerar nuestras dudas.
>
> Tiros
> CMI-Chiapas
>
> Hello Everyone,
> This is Tiros from the Chiapas-IMC.  Here at the IMC
> Chiapas, we have also discussed the proposal for
> Computers to Bolivia and have also developed a few
> concerns that we hope could be addressed.
>
> We would like some more detail as to whom and which
> IMC's in Bolivia will recieve the computers.
>
> What are the specs on the computers?  We have a lot of
> experience here in Chiapas recieving obsolete or
> damaged equipment that has caused more headaches than
> what it is worth.
>
> A proposal came up here that perhaps some price
> comparisons could be made in Bolivia and Chile on
> computers with similar specs to see if there could be
> a more local recycling effort.
>
> We are also in agreement with IMC Uruguay in that we
> think that local IMC Bolivia techs should be used for
> installations instead of sending a foreign techie.
>
> Finally, we would like to hear the thoughts of
> IMC-Bolivia on the proposal.
>
> Thanks for considering our doubts.
>
> Tiros
> IMC-Chiapas
>
>
> --- Liber Tinus <libertino at indymedia.org> wrote:
>> [castellano abajo]
>>
>> The Indymedia Uruguay collective discuss this
>> propostal in the weeky meeting and
>> we have some considerations.
>>
>> 1- The propostal isn't clear, we don't understand
>> what relation is among the
>> propostal and the  Indymedia network or the local
>> collectives.
>>
>> 2- What collective of Indymedia did the request?
>>
>> 3- We think that the presence of computers does not
>> assure the formation of a
>> indy group. It is not logical. If there are
>> interested persons surely
>> voluntaries of Indymedia Bolivia can help with the
>> process.
>>
>> 4- Also, we don't  understand the need to send a
>> foreign technician when in a
>> local or regional level surely it's possible to
>> obtain this technical support.
>>
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --
>>
>> Indymedia Uruguay discutió la propuesta en su
>> reunión semanal y tenemos algunas
>> consideraciones
>>
>> 1- La propuesta no es clara, no entendemos que
>> relación hay entre la propuesta y
>> la red Indymedia o sus colectivos.
>>
>> 2- ¿Qué colectivo de Indymedia hace el pedido?
>>
>> 3- Consideramos que la presencia de computadoras no
>> asegura la formación de un
>> colectivo. No es lógico. Si hay personas interesadas
>> seguro compañeros/as de
>> Indymedia Bolivia pueden ayudarlas con el proceso.
>>
>> 4- Tampoco entendemos la necesidad de enviar un
>> técnico extranjero cuando a
>> nivel local o regional seguro se puede conseguir ese
>> apoyo técnico.
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Liber Tinus
>> http://www.fotolog.net/libertino/
>> http://uruguay.indymedia.org
>>
>>
>>
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