[Imc-finance] Re: More lies about IMC funding

[libertino at riseup.net]

pienso que no tenemos que responder a todos los ataques o mentiras, allá ellos,
seguiremos caminando. Pero la pagina de links es muy vieja, me ofresco a ayudar


I think that we dont have to respond all lies and attacks. Let's make our way.

But, about the allies, its true, its too old.
I can help you with that, we can make a global call for links
Each Indymedia can make a lists of media collectives (only sites) that work in
cooperative with the local imcs. Collectives who really work in relation with
Indymedia. 

and put all separate between geographic place, like local indymedia.

no? yes? dont know? let talk!


Mensaje citado por suzq at riseup.net:

| I'm hoping this mail gets posted to the global features listserve ... I
| unsubscribed by accident a little while back, so it may need to await
| moderator approval until (hoping) the moderator lets me back onto the
| list.
| This is a response to the Townhall magazine article about Indymedia
| published at
| http://www.townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/bs20040428.shtml (see below).
| 
| On the global features list, there was some discussion last November about
| doing an "internal expos'e" on how Indymedia is funded.  Now that this new
| article against Indymedia came out on Townhall.com, and the frontpage
| magazine lies are being used as source material that others are quoting, I
| think it makes sense for someone who's involved in the global finance
| group to write up a little summary, just to "go public" and clear up
| misconceptions spread by our detractors.  You can read our archives
| discussing the frontpage magazine article at
| http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/www-features/2003-November/ and
| http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/www-features/2003-December/
| 
| Ana was compiling mainstream news articles on Indymedia back in November
| 2003 -- ana, perhaps you'd like to write something up?  anarch3m also
| suggested doing a feature ... I'd be happy to collaborate but don't have
| much background knowledge in the finance department.
| 
| Full Indymedia financial documentation can be found at
| http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FrequentlyAskedQuestionEn#pay ,
| http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcFinance , and in the archives at
| http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-finance/
| Information on general resource-sharing can be found at
| http://docs.indymedia.org/twiki/bin/view/Global/SendingComputers
| 
| We also get slammed a lot for open publishing, and the fact that some
| groups and people use open publishing to call for or to celebrate the
| deaths of other groups and people.  I think another angle for an internal
| expos'e might include some kind of public statement on how open publishing
| works and what editorial or moderation policies, if any, indymedia
| editorial collectives exercise on the posts and comments that come in to
| them.
| s
| Another thing I think we need to be aware of is the impact of the "allies"
| list, posted at
| http://www.indymedia.org/en/static/links.shtml
| Aside from the fact that, like the indymedia banner on the top of the
| global site, our list of links is too NorthAmerican/European-centered, it
| also lists groups as "allies" that have probably never heard of us, much
| less consider themselves to be "allied" with us.  And the www-features
| working group is small; I think too small to speak as the voice of the
| network in deciding that certain activist organizations, such as the
| AFL-CIO or the ELF, represent "allies" to Indymedia while other activist
| organizations do not.  Personally, I would recommend either having that
| list ONLY include resources for other sources of alternative media and
| grassroots tech support, since that's really what we do and that mission
| is the only real point of common ground among all the different IMCs and
| the network as a whole, either that or changing the header from "allies"
| to "links for more information," or something a little more neutral that
| doesn't imply political endorsement of all the groups listed.
| More information on that can be found at
| http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcAllies
| http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/IndyLinksNew
| http://web.archive.org/web/20030512153831/www.indymedia.org/links.php3
| and in the archives at
| http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/www-features/2004-March/
| 
| Food for thought...
| 
| Love and solidarity,
| SuZQ