[Imc-france-paris] Fw: [Imc-europe] Re: imc europe meeting ?

[JjMeric]

les questions commencent à arriver dru... pas cap de répondre au vol à 
celle-ci (voir plus bas le contexte no border) :
>Can someone form France help us to have an overview of the current 
>political ESF process? and on what are the alternative proposals?
= est-ce que quelqu'un en France peut nous expliquer le processus 
politiques de l'ESF? et quelles sont les propositions alternatives ?

JJ

----- Forwarded by Jean-Jacques Meric on 11/08/2003 22:17 -----

imc-europe-bounces at lists.indymedia.org wrote on 11/08/2003 14:18:00:

> 
> 
> 
> >At 10.35 11/08/2003 +0200, Blicero wrote:
> >> > - get hosting facilities (room, interprets) for a workshop of 
indymedia
> >> > activists
> >> >
> >>
> >>i still don't get why not to cooperate with metallo medialab
> >>the proposal seems interesting to me, not sectarian and open to 
cooperation
> >>
> >>still it present the same issue we faced last year withthe hub of 
being in a
> >>space away from esf, facilitating less influence from the 
buraeucracies, but
> >>making it difficult to meet al lot of people who came to florence to 
see
> >>what'sup and that could be much more interested meeting us than 
listening to
> >>hours of speech of kallinikos and co
> >
> >I think this is a crucial point: we have been evaluating carfully after 

> >the 'Hub' in Florence what might be a good tactic to cross the ESF, by 
> >confronting the official position of some organizations with concrete 
> >issues, contents and innovative political and communication 
practices...
> >  it is surely more effective to try to bring some of the important 
issues 
> > and political methods in within the ESF and not at the margin of 
> the event....
> >All of this thinking is useless anyways without a clear report of the 
> >political and logistic situations and possibilities of convergences and 

> >interaction with other social movements and activists...
> >For example at the Noborder camp in Puglia we had a very productive 
> >meeting about the ESF where it came out that also the migrant movement 
> >will have a very critical approach to the French official position for 
the 
> >ESF that is still a sovranist politics based  on national States, and 
this 
> >is an obstacle for people that are working with migration, freedom of 
> >movement and freedom of communication and that consider the critique of 

> >the border regime and global communication as main topics for the 
ESF....
> >
> >.
> >
> >I think that the most important thing is to build the conditions to 
> >strenghten an independent network of media and social activists that 
will 
> >gain a european dimension of the political/communication action...
> >
> >>I will concretely propose to the Indymedia network to collectively 
> >>prepare a couple of workshops on a few issues...and I suggest to 
focuse 
> >>also on the wsis and to organize a workshop on it together with the 
> >>platform Geneve03 [http://www.geneva03.org/] that is active developing 

> >>the counter activities during the Wsis...
> >Can someone form France help us to have an overview of the current 
> >political ESF process? and on what are the alternative proposals?
> >
> >thanx, Francesca
> 
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