[Imc-india] Re: [indiaindymedia] How to join India IMC

Wed Aug 27 20:22:37 PDT 2003

Hi, this would be great to move on to some Indymedia list. I know it is a 
bit difficult to get to know the structure of indymedia as it seems quite 
overwhelming at the beginning. Imc Scotland at its beginning somehow came 
to use a yahoo list, too, because it seemed the easiest option, but after a 
time, most people got to appreciate the setup of the indymedia lists much 
more, especially when intrested volunteers sign-up to the list which they 
can find much easier if it is listed on http://lists.indymedia.org and also 
the open archive has helped out so often when trying to find contact 
details and to see how the development of a group evolved and what 
discussions were had.

About indymedia India, I am sorry but i think I can't be of much help here, 
but of course I am interested in how the discussion develops and what the 
outcome is.
Also it seems to me that a successfull indymedia works on 3 levels, 
locally, nationally and globally. There is a fourth level sneaking in which 
could be described as "continental" maybe. But it seems to me that 
successfull IMCs work well because of physical local meetings where people 
get to know each other and built trust and have fun developping their 
intrests and exchanging knowledge. Therefore imcs which cover big areas 
often have problems because of not enough physical meeetings. Sometimes as 
seen with France, it might be best to try to build up city-Imcs instead of 
national/network imcs as they are a bit easier to maintain. Basically, 
sometimes such as in France or Russia or whereever,the only solution seemed 
to be a collapse of the site to built up something new, but that could also 
mean that new collectives grow and structure and organise differently, and 
that this might be a more suitable setup for a particular area or so.

Concerning legal action, I would really hate to see this, especially if it 
comes from a "lefty" position. I don't know if anybody explained to you 
yet, that all people working at the indymedia on any level are volunteers, 
nobody gets paid. That means that for all people involved they face a 
conflict between sustaining their life by selling of their labour, spending 
most of their time working and squeezing in imc workload whenever they can.
Or they don't work and then they might have time but often not the 
resources they need.
So involvement basically depends on how much time people can spare to 
maintain a project.
It is great to know you are willing to spend time, energy and enthusiasm in 
building up and maintaining an imc.
Taking on workload is greatly appreciated by all the IMC collectives 
(normally) and as always earns you respect of the global community.
But the reason that everybody is a volunteer is also one of the reasons why 
it takes ages sometimes to deal with tricky issues or why it might take 
longer till somebody gets back to you.
Basically  you need a big amount of patience and persistence sometimes.
But it can be great fun if you get some friends and a collective together 
to built up an Imc and to maintain it.
So I hope, although you might be initially motivated out of a bad 
experience, that you and like-minded friends can channel this experience 
into a successfull, appreciated and loved project as it is for us (at least 
most of the time).

Basically Bouds recommendations about all the links and read ups are very 
valid. Unfortunately a lot of reading has to be done in IMC :-)
That might have something to do that many IMC volunteers are so far away 
from each other.
The nicest and most successfull thing is, if you get to know some IMC 
volunteers of a neighbouring IMC to visit you or you to visit them and to 
get an introduction and chat with them about stuff and organisation, that 
often makes it a lot easier to get your head round stuff.

Sometimes, that doesn't even need to be the IMC closest to you.
Oh and something else I wanted to add, in my opinion for a functioning IMC 
you would need at least 3 people (bare minimum!), one "techy" who must not 
be a techy but is interested in tech stuff and in solving web and computer 
problems and educates other people about how to make the most out of the 
technology, one person watching and being concerned about the "editorial" 
side of things and one person who can do design aspects. Well, that seems 
to be the absolute minimum. Of course better is a working collective of at 
least 10 or even more volunteers continously working on imc in some 
aspects. And a big mass of volunteers who contribute irregularly but still 
are helping quite a lot in total. And of course, the activists contributing 
from a grassroots community to the newswire. Also, it is of advantage if 
you have people who link up with the IMC community on every level 
(local,national or regional; and global) and also a link up based on the 
issues you might be interested in, may also of advantege (like 
webstuff/radio/print/audio/video/techstuff, etc...)

so, hope this helps.
Ulla

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:30:19 +0100 (BST), Montgomery Cheddar 
<ganeshmukti at yahoo.ie> wrote:

> It has been suggested by people within the IMC
> movement that the best place to have discussions on
> IMC India is on the IMC India Process list. This has
> public archives and therefore is in keeping with
> Indymedia's supposed commitment to transparency.
> Although little has come out of posting to this list
> on the imc-india at lists.indymedia.org email, I suggest
> that all those wanting to get involved with India IMC
> sign up to it.
>
> You can do this at:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-india
>
> The archives are available at:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-india/
>
> Then just post emails to imc-india at lists.indymedia.org
> as you would on this yahoo group.
>
> Let's have some discussion on IMC India and perhaps
> someone in the Madurai collective will respond to our
> messages and offer explanations as to what is
> happening regarding violent messages and incitement to
> communal violence. Perhaps the collective will allow
> new members to their administration and editorial team
> to help rejuvinate the group.
>
> Many thanks for your interest.
>
> Ganesh.
>
>
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