[Imc-india] Re: Why is secular content on IMC India being hidden ?

[boud]

hi harsh,
   Whoever hid your post article_id=7417 has simply strengthened the
already watertight proposal that you and ganesh have made:

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-india/2003-August/001008.html

IMHO, while waiting for the deadline to pass (just a few more days),
you should try searching through the indymedia network to find tech
people who will be able to help with the password and show you how
to do admin (the page itself looks easy, but i've never done it, so i
simply don't know). 

In any case, the network is non-hierarchical - i suggest you email
to 

imc-tech at lists.indymedia.org 

(with just one cc: to imc-india would be enough - there's probably no
need to keep lots of other cc's - people already cc'd should know
where to find the imc-india archive by now), if you like IRC (chat)
you could try indymedia IRC (http://irc.indymedia.org i think).

Just point to the URL with the proposal, suggest that people check out
the discussion on the imc-india archive and say you're looking for
people who can help with the tech side once the deadline has passed.

IMHO, the only reasonable explanation the Madurai collective could
come up with is that someone outside of the collective got hold of the
editorial password. If that's the case, then it would be reasonable
(after the deadline) to ask the techs to change the password, and send
the new one (offlist, of course) both to you two and to the only two
addresses we have for Amudhan / the Madurai collective. Or maybe to
wait until the Madurai collective communicate with the imc-india list
before giving them the new password. After all, we have no sign as to
whether the two addresses we have (in your cc:) are really functioning
or being read by anyone...

BTW, just to help you with understanding consensus type
decision-making, indymedia mailing list style, the way in which the
present proposal will become not just a political decision but
something which really happens, is probably when you find the tech
people who can help and they have a look for themselves at the
situation and judge whether they feel a valid decision has been
made. IMHO the proposal is perfectly clear and consensual and the
decision is likely to be accepted as valid.


solidarity
boud




On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Harsh Kapoor wrote:

> Dear people at IMC India and other IMC's
> 
> Earlier today a posting by me on the Indymedia India newswire was 
> hidden in a matter of hours.
> 
> Here are the details:
> 
> Gandhian tells US Administration its reaction to Gujarat riots not enough
> http://india.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=7417&group=webcast
> 
> I see no reason why such material should be removed and hidden from 
> the newswire; this not the first time such matter has been removed 
> from the newswire. In my view, elimination of such documents can only 
> be perceived as blatant censorship of secular content on the IMC 
> India newswire and goes against the grain of seemingly key IMC 
> principles of supporting "free expression". It is important that 
> reasons for hiding such content be discussed and explained.
> 
> I am still hoping that people at the Madurai collective who are 
> responsible content management of IMC India newswire will open up and 
> engage in some discussion regarding their policies and problems. I 
> would once again request them kindly take some of us into confidence 
> regarding the current situation. We would like to help reclaim this 
> space and have absolutely no other interests.
> 
> rgds.
> 
> Harsh Kapoor
> South Asia Citizens Web
> http://www.mnet.fr/aiindex
> South Asia Citizens Wire
> http://sacw.insaf.net
> 
> At 2:17 AM +0200 8/31/03, boud wrote:
> >On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Shayne O'Neill wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>  Just checked the newswire. WOW.
> >>
> >>  It seems to me that imc-india newswire is out of control with
> >>  full-blown hate postings.
> >>
> >>  Does *anyone* have a suggestion on how to contact the collective if MC
> >>  cant.
> >
> >You've already cc-ed the Madurai collective addresses that i'm aware of
> >+ the imc-india mailing list.
> >
> >http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-india/2003-August/001001.html
> >102 posts on the IMC India newswire were hidden during 6 days last week,
> >so that person/people has/have little excuse not to speak up on imc-india,
> >IMHO.
> >
> >>
> >>  Intimidating ethnic minorities is NOT what indy is about.
> >>
> >>  Shayne.
> >
> >i suggest the thread goes to imc-india at lists.indymedia.org -
> >
> >
> >For the record, the network *was* alerted to this back in jan 2003, but
> >i guess IMC Perth was not in the network back then:
> >
> >cross-post:
> >http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-india/2003-January/000722.html
> >http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2003-January/003207.html
> >
> >solidarity
> >boud
> >
> >
> >
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