[Imc-lwg-work] Re: [Imc-uk-features] URGENT word page proposal/finished article

[Planet Mail]

I'm sorry I think this is VERY SILLY and DESTRUCTIVE.

You toni are saying that you and richard, and anyone who joins this 'imc-london-wg' has full autonomy to do whatever they like without reference to the existing features list and how it has been working for months and months on consensus.

We have to work out how to work together without these battle lines being drawn. You are on the attack challenging the existing people, it would be more constructive to talk - like we did the other night which was really good and thought provoking.

But surely the approach here is going to take so much energy at a time when repression is increasing everywhere, I am truly really very worried about this.

I have no objections whatsoever of reviewing things like 24hr rule and making discussions and so on, but this approach you take, to say the group of features lists people who have been running the whole site this year have no say in what happens with the features, because you and richard do not recognise our consensus decisions is just ludicrous. I mean it really is.

The discussions and ideas of representation and for how things could be better done are very important to have and I think you have loads of good points and suggestions. I just think this approach you take is not constructive and is actually disrespectful. 

More discussion, less confrontation.

dave.


At 16:18 18/12/2001 +0000, toni -- wrote:

>i just did this.
>
>ana, 24hours is something that collective you are part of agreed on.
>i do respect that. however, imc-london-wg that i'm part of works
>different. not that i personaly think that 24hr rule is bad,
>i think that it is highly impractical, which yes - i admit -
>does not make it very good. maybe, if there was a larger team
>working on features and they all head access to add content
>themselves 24hr would make much more sense.
>
>in london-wg we believe in rough consensus and running code.
>
>this is now done, which equalls running code and i decided
>to do it which is, since you complained, very rough consensus.
>
>back to text, hiro, in my opinion you missed a crucial point in your intro
>text which is that Chavez's government made a decision not to renew
>50 year old contract with US to sell oil to them.
>I was told this will happen by bloke i met on the party a year ago.
>He is from Venezuela and praised Chavez policies highly.
>If you want to add this to your text, or change anything else,
>post it here and i will hopefuly put it up tomorrow.
>
>regards,
>
>toni
>[imc-london-wg]
>
>
>On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Hiro Protagonist wrote:
>
>> can sombody put this into the world page (why wait24hours when the last 
>> article went in 26 nov) its not much but its somthing and its ready to cut 
>> and paste stright in
>> PLEASE CAN SOMEBODY PUT IT IN cause i cant do that stuff yet
>> Andrew
>> 


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