[Imc-lwg-work] imc-finance proposal response. 24 hours for ammendments.

[Richard Malter]

response to imc-finance proposal. 24 hours notice for ammendments.

Richard



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Hello everyone, 

We are blocking the imc-finance proposal in its current state, we explain the 
reason why, and suggest the actual ammendment needed to approve the proposal 
quickly - as we appreciate that the proposal is very much needed. Thank you.

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--Be composed of "empowered liaisons" from as many local IMCs as possible, as
well as individuals from around the network.  All who join this working group
list must present a roll call.  Individuals who join the group must be there to
actively do work.  The imc-finance working group will send out an invitation to
participate to all IMCs on the contact list, and will do so at least every
three months. 
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CONTRADICTION WITH IMC-PROCESS PROPOSAL

1) This contradicts the logic of the other proposal to transform the imc-
process into a liason list: becuase in this imc-finance proposal, individuals 
that actively do work are recognized as decision-makers *equally* with local 
IMCs; whereas in the imc-process proposal, individuals are differentiated as 
*not being equal* decision-makers with local IMC groups. 
[For analysis why the imc-process list proposal is about decision-making please 
see this mail <link to our mail to process> ]

Note: This is a positive aspect of the imc-finance proposal. Becuase it is 
recognizes the underlying problem of identifying who actually contributes work 
in Indymedia: some individuals who are not in any local or global group 
*equally* with local IMC groups. In other words: any one person=one group if 
they actively do work.

2) REASON FOR AN AMMENDMENT NEEDED: 

The logic that a decision-maker is someone who actually does work is applied 
incompletely in the imc-finance proposal: becuase the reverse case is not 
considered by it: a local IMC group _does not_ deliberately input into the 
network. Such IMCs contribute by existing, but no more than that. But this 
level of contribution is not adequate enough for Indymedia to be a network 
greater than the sum of its parts. However this proposal would still give them 
the curcuitry, and so effectively the rights of decision-making ability _about 
network issues_; the most significant decision-making right in such a case is 
the ability to block proposals. So the imc-finance proposal in its current 
state will also worsen this existing imbalance in the Indymedia network.

THE AMMENDMENT NEEDED:
A local IMC group that actively does work for the Indymedia network *beyond its 
local (geographical) autonomous activities* can be (via its liason) part of the 
Finance Working Group - empowered to make network decisions. That is: the fact 
that a local IMC group exists does not automatically justify its network 
decision-making rights in the Finance Working Group.


Richard Malter & Toni Prug
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