[Imc-summaries] Dec/Jan summary of imc-process
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Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:36:01 +0100 (CET)
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A summary from october 2002 is available here:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-uk-process/2002-October/000938.html
Currently re-thinking facilitation, even re-thinking the list, that's how i would
summarise it. Facilitation hasn't solved the problems that was intended to solve
background:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-October/004095.html
is the original proposal for facilitation, from imc sf.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004400.html
where Doug announces the facilitation of notes in imc process and enumerates the criteria
for screening messages (rejecting emails from the list)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004403.html
where Petros says that for reasons of transparency, anyone with access to any Indymedia
passwords
should be listed somewhere, visibly, and be openly
accountable to all of us.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004490.html
where Dough names the screening criteria (junk mail & abusive posts) and suggests to add
to these, extensive crossposting and exact duplicate posts. In another post he defines
abusive: sexually abusive language or extremely worded attacks on people's character or
activism. It would also mean to use terms of racial, gender, cultural or other
discrimination.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004326.html
where Andy sees there should be some sort of formal membership criteria or formal
democratic decision-making process (a conversation about this follows, with no conclusion
or proposed action)
On the 3rd of January Tony from UK posted a summary of discussions taken place recently -
useful if you don't want to read this whole email:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004480.html
On the 17th of january, Doug provides a summary of facilitation points discussed by
imc-process co-facilitators on and off the imc-process-facilitation list over the last
two
weeks. http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004535.html
Here,
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004339.html
Andy seems to propose some kind of "IMC police", and a trustworthy sytem of voting...
almost a month later, he goes on about voting and a more formal democratic process within
IMC, incluing more explicit membership criteria. (very long email):
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004415.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004427.html
where Andy again makes some proposals, like Clarification Roles of Resolve and Process
lists, transparency of List Administrators and Moderators, and Their Methods, a Vote,
When Lacking Consensus, and the need for IMC "Courts" and "Police" (long email too)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004431.html
chucko says Andy's post was disruptive and proposes IMC network participants to have a
series of face-to-face meetings (or conventions).
(this leads to a strong email by Andy, and mutual abuse...)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004443.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004455.html
the discussion leading to proposal to put chuck on a "postings held for approval" list
for new-imc ):
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2003-January/004418.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004497.html
summary of this and argument that this is a bad idea:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004500.html
final block from new-imc: chucko is not banned from new-imc: (although the ban is de
facto in place already at new-imc) (and relation of emails related to this)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004508.html
here,
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004504.html
sheri attempts a relation of our "policies" that need defined:
* policy about blocking and how we do that on this list?
* what is our "decision-making agreement" , and how does it work?
* a simple etiquette when posting to the list - could try, if people don't comply after
several incidents, they are asked to be "quiet" for a bit and their speaking privileges
are limited for a period of time.
* banning people policy. do we have one?
* cross-posting policy.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004467.html
is the report of a discussion of resolve issues
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004461.html
a remark that all the abuse has been done entirely by men (but then if the summarizer
hadn't been a woman this would probably not be in this summary)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004456.html
proposal to have a network face-to-face meeting in DC (USA)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004470.html
a bit of history of calls for meetings and the need for regional meetings
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004475.html
chucko says DC is not centric (Michel later will ask how can a point on the surface of a
sphere be central?
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004489.html
different issues brought up in this discussion
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004477.html
more backing for regional meetings by John.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004478.html
a reminder that the goal behind the whole Ford Foundation thing was to enable a series of
regional meetings network wide.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004482.html
call for such an such an encuentro in Chiapas.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004488.html
thoughts: maybe a global network is not workable, only as interchange of info an
interesting thread follows:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004509.html
proposal to revise the liason system in this list:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004527.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004329.html
see thread for internal conflict in Houston...
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004410.html
where some one from houston joins to see if he can find answers to some persistent
internal problems in HIMC function (dysfunction) (you can follow this
thread too)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004421.html
more on houston
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004332.html
where a petition is placed to all participants to give info on themselves on
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcProcessWhosWho
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004371.html
where Brian clarifies that the group called Tactical Media Fund, is a group NOT part of
the Indymedia Network. are trying to raise money for independent media work, including
the IMC's around the world. He compares them to Chumbawamba, raising money for another
group (such as the IMC network).
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004373.html
where Dough invites to form a list, strategies, to discuss issues like Tech strategies,
Legal issues Funding strategies Internal communication systems and practices Translation
strategies Strategic Relationships- Editorial philosophy and practices - The IMC
principles of unity and local membership criteria: revisions? interpretations?- Conflict
resolution and arbitration
Ewan proposes even more topics:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004374.html
A new IMC is proposed: housing imc, not a local IMC. subject-oriented
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004416.html
more on an imc for homeless:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004460.html
Roving provides the threads of this discussion in process and in syndication;
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004483.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004525.html
Lancaster IMC accepted!!
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004425.html
begins as a discussion between 2 facilitator about the criteria for rejecting emails that
have been cross-posted, but it derives in a discussion of personal differences. the
sustainability of facilitation of the list is also discussed.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004426.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004424.html
(you can follow the thread)
issue of naming of palestina imc:
'jerusalem.indymedia.org ...
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004502.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004476.html
about a way of tracking discussions on lists...
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