[imc-tech-solidarity] Re: computers for ecuador

[evan@protest.net]

yes we can send the money to a personal bank account. We just need all the
information. This ammount of money it's important that we don't do it as a
western union because we would loose a huge amount of the money.

I agree that it will be dificult to send large numbers of computers to
peru and colombia. We will need to talk with the imc people from those
countries to see if they can arrange things. For now let's focus on
getting the computers IN to ecuador.

-evan

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Judith Welkmann wrote:

> Hi Evan,
> How=92s it going?
> We had an indy meeting last night where we were
> talking about the computer thing. One major problem is
> the money. At the moment we=92ve got about 400$ which
> won=92t be enough to get the computers out. The 2000 you
> offered us will be used for the legal processes to get
> them out, and for the garantie that we have to pay for
> the container. And there will be more money needed for
> that: some talk about at least 500 to 1500 more, if we
> won=92t have to pay IVA taxes (sorry, can=92t think of the
> name in English). If we have to pay those taxes there
> will be another major problem... (they are 12% of the
> estimated value, and they might just estimate the
> value as really high, i.e. as if they were new
> computers...). Or they might not recognize all the
> paper stuff and consider it a smuggle, instead of a
> donation, which would be a real pain in the arse. But
> anyway, there=92s a good chance we can get them out if
> we move fast. (Also we wanna get them out as soon as
> possible so we won=92t have to pay a fee for the
> storing.)
> Now, could you send us the money to a personal bank
> account? (or would that cause any problems for you?)
> We=92ll be able to send you the data of the account
> later on today.
>
> Also, we had some good discussions on how to
> distribute the computers. There=92s a feeling that this
> could strengthen grassroot and communication
> processes, seen as the distribution would go hand in
> hand with workshops on communication in different
> communities.
> Another question coming up was about the number of
> computers staying here or going to other countries.
> Because of legal problems we consider it dificult to
> get them out of Ecuador, because the donation was made
> to an ecuatorian fundation. Also there will be a
> problem storing big numbers of computers here, seen as
> they=92d be candidates for robberies... (everybody in
> the area will cop on on the things stored...). So it
> was suggested that small numbers might be stored in
> different places here, so that a total of around 30
> could stay here, until the compas from other countries
> can get them. Would that be allright with you, or did
> you think about a bigger number going to other places?
> Of course, it=92d be ideal if there were more computers
> going directly to those countries, such as Colombia
> and Peru. (With Bolivia it=92ll even be more difficult
> to get them there from here...).
> Anyway, that=92s it for now. Looking forward to getting
> your news.
>
> judith + ibon
>
>
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