[imc-tech-solidarity] otra destinacion para las computadoras

Thu Jan 15 11:20:01 PST 2004

Hey Folks,
I'm coming into this conversation quite late.  But Evan's proposal would be 
good.  Indymedia Chiapas and COMPPA (our popular communications coalition in 
Mesoamerica) have been working quite closely with folks and projects in 
Guatemala since the elections and the temporary IMC that was set up there in 
Guatemala city.  We were actually this minute finishing a meeting because we're 
setting up the next of workshops for COMPPA in the Peten in Guatemala where 
many of the Guatemala organizations that participated both in the Cancun IMC 
and the Guatemala IMC (temp one to cover the elections) will be participating.  
We'll be setting up a radio station, training, video, audio production, web, 
web publication etc.  It would be very esy for to distribute the computers and 
assure that they are going to the communications centers that are getting 
established, not just going out blindly.  Those workshops will be the fist week 
in March, there will people from Honduras (COPINH), Guate (Luciernaga, CIEP, 
CPR, Comunicarte, Rights Action, Hijos, Community radio alliance and others 
that are being defined now), Mexico (Maclovio Rojas - border in with tijuana 
us, UCIZONI-Oaxaca, Radio Tupa, Radio Huave, Chiapas IMC, maybe Mexico City), 
Prometheus in the states, and maybe a few other organizations.  In the next two 
weeks outlines, participants and other details should be defined.  We would 
certainly invite a few other bilingual techies to if people are interested.  

So let us know what thoughts are about the shipment of computers, what we could 
do to help put folks in contact with Guatemalan partner groups that could help 
with logistics for receiving those computers etc....

Thanks again for considering our participation in this and please be in touch.

nos vemos en las calles del campo!!!

timo

ps...if there is need for a spanish version of this please let me know and I 
will translate and send it to this same list.  Sorry, my Portuguese is re-mal
un abrazo

Mensaje citado por: evan <evan at protest.net>:

> I think we should get a confirmation from the brasilians first. We said 
> that if there was not real progress in two weeks we'd cancel the brasil 
> idea and move forward with others. Right now it's been 6 weeks since we 
> made that agreement.
> 
> First off all we need confirmation them before we ship elsewhere.
> 
> If we ship the computers to Guatemala, i think we should ask that 50 of 
> the computers we are sending be given to indymedia Chiapas for them to 
> distribute to groups sympathetic to indymedia who they are working with 
> in guatemala and possibly for them to bring to Chiapas. This is of 
> course, if the Chiapas folks want them. They were supposed to get 
> computers after cancun and due to my personal fuckup at the border we 
> lost them. It seems that it would be a good way to use them, help some 
> groups we want, and stop paying this insane $220 a month.
> 
> in solidarity,
> evan
> 
> 
> On Monday, Jan 12, 2004, at 19:41 US/Eastern, mic wrote:
> 
> > okay,
> > i just talked to someone at the ACCRC
> >
> > the ACCRC folks are gonna wait 1 week before shipping to guatamala.  
> > They
> > have 50 computers currently going to that project.  If it works out, 
> > they
> > will ship our computers as well in a larger container.
> >
> > The ACCRC is expecting an update on Thurs, so pls, email me Thurs 
> > before
> > 5pm pacfica coast time.
> >
> > thanks
> > mic
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ************* A Network can be the Opposite of a Hierachy ***********
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Pablo Ortellado wrote:
> >
> >> Mic,
> >> I've been wanting to write you for days. The things is our lawyers 
> >> cant
> >> believe that after one year of hard work they will have to call out 
> >> the
> >> process. They asked me to hold my reply to you for a few more days 
> >> untill
> >> they hopefully would have a deadline for the process. I really dont 
> >> know
> >> what to do. Just give me two more days so I can have a final meeting 
> >> with
> >> them.
> >> Pablo
> >>
> >> At 06:21 12/1/2004, you wrote:
> >>> english below
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>> pienso que necesitamos hablar sobre otras destinaciones para las
> >>> computadoras que estan guardadas en california.
> >>>
> >>> por un ano hemos pagado $220/ mes para guardar los computadoras
> aqui.
> >>>
> >>> las computadoras estan mas viejas y cuesta mas de $2000 para 
> >>> recilarlas en
> >>> los EUS.
> >>>
> >>> pero, hay una oportunidad para enviarlas a una comunidad en 
> >>> Guatamala con
> >>> un proyecto de ACCRC. Tenemos que decidir en pocos dias si queremos 
> >>> mandar
> >>> las computadoras con esta programa. Por eso les escribo, por ahorita
> 
> >>> me
> >>> parece la mejor opcion.
> >>>
> >>> Puedo darles mas informacion del proyecto de ACCRC si me escriben.
> >>>
> >>> mic
> >>> -----------------------------------
> >>> i think we need to talk about other destinations for the 
> >>> computadoras that
> >>> we are storing in california.
> >>>
> >>> for a year we have been paying $220/month to store the computers 
> >>> here.
> >>>
> >>> the computers are now older, and it would cost over $2000 to recycle
> 
> >>> them
> >>> in the united states
> >>>
> >>> but there is an oppertunity to ship the computers to a community in
> >>> guatamala with a project of the ACCRC.  we have to decide in the 
> >>> next few
> >>> days if we want to computers to go to this project.  i am now
> writing
> >>> this, because i think this is the best option.
> >>>
> >>> if you want more information about the project of the ACCRC, write 
> >>> me.
> >>>
> >>> mic
> >>>
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