[Imc-uk-features] hide!: what is this anyway

[andi]

hi all,

i think nessuno's post is _not_ by a troll - i think it's the
authentic opinion by someone who's been involved in imc-uk since a
long time and was badly beaten up by cops in genoa - he mentions
that himself in his post.

i'm shocked to realise that what nessuno posts in this comment
_IS_ antisemitic. i wasn't aware that he could be so stupid to not
being able to distinguish between the state of israel and 'the
jews', especially as he comments on a perfectly reasonable article
which _does_ manage to distinguish properly. his was the _first_
comment on that article to stir up things. he should get himself
better informed. i don't know if he posted a quick rant, but even
if he did he should be aware that he's treading on dodgy ground.
nessuno, if you think i'm wrong then let's have a debate on this
features list but not on the newswire. maybe we need a debate on
what the imc-uk consensus on politics and language with regards to
the state of israel is, and what defines antisemitism. but
nessuno, if you really do think what you've posted then i will
hide posts like this and i will campaign within imc-uk against
you.

and yet again, nessuno seems as well to think he's some sort of a
spokesman for imc-uk. i can assure everyone that nessuno has been
asked several times at meetings in london *not* to speak, or to
organise on behalf of imc-uk without having consensus agreement; 
but here we are again: "i do remember why IMC turned against the 
israeli state and the jews."; "all of us who observed this" etc.

nessuno, yet another time: we all acknowledge that you've suffered
a lot in genoa, and we respect your principled stand against the
daily telegraph. but know who your friends are and don't isolate
yourself with antisemite crap. and in any case speak for yourself
but not for "us". 

i've not hidden nessuno's comment - i've taken out the _entire_
text of the comment. i have backed it up on stallman, read it on
/home/uk/nessunocomment. i will replace nessuno's comment on the 
wire with a link to this email on the imc-uk-features list.

cheers, andi imc-london


marlous wrote on 29/4/03 9:33 am

>there is a comment on the newswire by "nessuno. one of IMC" on
>an article about anti-semitism/anti-israel. it includes
>sentences like:
>
>"if the jews stopped taking IMC journalists to court, we might
>listen. i do remember why IMC turned against the israeli state
>and the jews."
>
>ehmmm, since when? these sort of claims are of course really
>dangerous in the hands of those who already think that imc is
>anti-israel/jew and is deliberately leaving anti-semitic stuff
>up.
>
>dunno if someone is trying to flame, but before it starts we
>should hide the comment. it is under
>http://www.uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=65538
> (i cannot access admin coz of IE).
>
>thanks/ marlous
>