[New-imc] Re: [Imc-finance] leaving the working group

[Amber Black]

Hi Evan,

I really don't know how to respond to your questions.  I'm not comfortable 
at this point speaking for the wmass imc, whatever that may or may not be- 
that was the whole point of me bowing out of the finance list.  I am 
copying the main wmass discussion list on this- maybe others who feel 
strongly one way or another will chime in with some input.

I see our situation this way:  we haven't had an in-person organizing 
meeting in several months, have not managed to put up a website that 
corresponds to the other imc's models, and have had little to no input on 
most discussion items even on our email discussion lists, for months.

On the other hand, we have a discussion list on which a dedicated & 
energetic few post (text) news items.  That list, like all our others, is 
of course archived, so in a sense, people can self-publish text-based news 
and read it either on the list, or thru the archives on the wmass imc 
website.  There is also a wiki found on our website (or is it "there are 
wikis?") though I've not used or contributed to that aspect so I know 
nothing about it.  And there are a number of local individuals who were 
actively organizing and/or attending wmass meetings when we were having 
them, who continue to be contributing to other imcs and/or global projects 
of various sorts.

So I don't know who among those who identified as being part of the wmass 
collective would feel we are active, and who would feel we are not 
active.  At the same time I removed myself from the finance group, I 
withdrew as one of the moderators of our wmass discussion lists, and that 
provoked some comments to the effect that not everyone thinks we are 
defunct.  Personally, what we have currently is not the model I think of 
when I think imc, it has been several months with little activity, and 
after receiving little to no response when bringing global finance issues 
back to the wmass group for input, I didn't want to continue in the 
"liaison" role- I thought it was an inaccurate representation.

Finally, as to your comments that questions about our status have been met 
with silence and/or angry emails, I am confused and surprised by that 
news.  I subscribe to all the wmass lists except tech, (and until recently, 
was one of the moderators), my phone number has been used for contact info, 
and with the exception of 2 or 3, I was at every main organizing meetings 
from the start of the effort in the fall of '01.  And I don't recall seeing 
or hearing about any such questions being posed to our collective, or being 
replied to.

So as I said at the outset of this message, I don't know what all this 
means in terms of your questions.  Maybe others from wmass will chime in 
with some input which points more clearly in some direction or another.

-Amber


At 02:53 PM 8/25/2002 -0700, evan at protest.net wrote:
>Does that mean that we should remove the western mass imc from teh cities
>list on teh sites? It has upset peopel that there isn't an active imc or
>open publishing. When it's been proposed in the past to remove the listing
>until such time as the site was actually ready. That proposal was at first
>met with silence and then angry emails. I think there is nothing wrong
>with admitting that you aren't organized or ready yet. It would be good if
>you or somebody who was/is involved with the westernmass imc could
>acknowledge the situation and let us hide the listing until such time as
>you all are ready.
>
>in solidarity,
>evan
>
>On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 ablack2 at pipeline.com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Quick post to notify that I'm withdrawing as the wmass imc liaison to the
> > finance working group.  Here in wmass a group of folks started almost a 
> year
> > ago trying to get the wmass imc off the ground, but the effort has stalled,
> > and there has not been any organizing activity for quite some 
> time.  Without
> > being part of an active, productive imc, I'm not comfy remaining in this
> > working group at this time.
> >
> > -Amber
> >
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