[New-imc] Participation on this list (was PROCESS - rethinking this list ?- europe contacts)

[blue pi]

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Von: sheri at indymedia.org

>thanks bart for bringing this up.
>
>can we get a sense of who on this list is available to do these 
>applications.  i'm not sure how many people we currently have on the 
>list (maybe 40 people - list admin how many people are on the 
>list?), 

after all that doesn't seem to much to me (in Germnay we have 300
people on our list and only ten at the most participate, so we are
doing fine here relativly speaking :))

>but since this list is a working group, i think that if you are 
>here, 
>you hopefully are interested in working and contributing, in small 
>and large ways.  that is the definition of a "working group".
>

Speaking for myself: Here in Beirut I only have internet access at
work, only one person in our indymedia group has Internet at home and
it always breaks down, e.g. after every rainfall, which is quite
often now in winter. So this makes it difficult to participate on all
kinds of lists.

Anyhow as I said before I would like to be responsible for
applications coming from the Middle East, there just haven't been any
since I am on this list. Should I check on Istanbul or Marocco, see
how they are doing? Acctually I don't know what there status is, I
just saw, that there are groups there (don't even know where I saw
that.) So maybe soneone could brief me on that?

solidarity
blue

>it's confusing to me when it comes to participation in indymedia 
>network issues like this one (there are many others) because we have 
>such low participation rates.  it's almost like our voting record in 
>america which is the lowest in the entire world.  what does that 
>mean?  sometimes it's very disappointing to me.  we have many people 
>on these lists and 100 imcs in the network, but we continue to have 
>a 
>handful of people who do all the network work, whether that be tech 
>support or features or communication or coordinating or anything, 
>and 
>i don't think that this is the ideal.  we have ideals of democracy 
>but democracy is about people participating.
>
>when we first set up this list, i really felt like it was important 
>to have it be a "working group" which meant you were here to work, 
>not to just have it go into a folder in your email program or not to 
>just lurk.  that creates a different kind of atmosphere than one 
>where everyone is contributing.
>
>so that's my small concern about participation.
>
>i know that we currently have boud, jay, bart, gaba, dri, myself 
>occasionally (i backed off alot the last year) and a few others who 
>jump in occasionally.  i've heard from a few people that they would 
>like to help out and that is great.  i've also remember people from 
>new imcs say that they wanted to help out and i haven't seen that 
>happen.
>
>are there others on this list who want to help share the 
>responsibilities of this critical list?  if you haven't done it but 
>are interested, i'm sure there are people who have been doing it for 
>a while who would help you.
>
>we also need someone to volunteer to write up a summary to share 
>with 
>the rest of the network.  we need to reinvigorate that project 
>again, 
>which helps us keep the entire network aware of what is happening. 
>we've grown so fast it's hard to keep up.
>
>solidarity,
>sheri
>
>At 4:07 PM +0100 12/1/02, PseudoPunk wrote:
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>>Hey Everyone,
>>
>>first the personal part. I'm quite busy getting a local imc 
>organised
>>here (see IMC West-Vlaanderen mail). So I don't have that much time
>>available for global stuff.
>>
>>Is there anyone who can take over the european applications ? or
>>dividing them among people ? I still volunteer to do the french ones
>>(since I now have a lot of contacts there). let something now. If we
>>want rotation in imc, we'll have to do it anyway...
>>
>>Are there volunteers for other regions ? Since jay left it seems a 
>lot
>>of mails are unanswerred ? or did I check that too fast ?
>>
>>Bart
>>- --
>>"Intellectuals are the shoeshine boys of the ruling elite" 
>(Killdozer)
>>
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