[New-imc] Participation on this list (was PROCESS - rethinking this list ? - europe contacts)

[PseudoPunk]

Sheri Herndon heeft geschreven:
> thanks bart for bringing this up.
>
> can we get a sense of who on this list is available to do these
> applications.  i'm not sure how many people we currently have on the
> list (maybe 40 people - list admin how many people are on the list?),
> but since this list is a working group, i think that if you are here,
> you hopefully are interested in working and contributing, in small and
> large ways.  that is the definition of a "working group".

67.
maybe 10/15 active people ...

>
> it's confusing to me when it comes to participation in indymedia network
> issues like this one (there are many others) because we have such low
> participation rates.  it's almost like our voting record in america
> which is the lowest in the entire world.  what does that mean?
> sometimes it's very disappointing to me.  we have many people on these
> lists and 100 imcs in the network, but we continue to have a handful of
> people who do all the network work, whether that be tech support or
> features or communication or coordinating or anything, and i don't think
> that this is the ideal.  we have ideals of democracy but democracy is
> about people participating.
>
> when we first set up this list, i really felt like it was important to
> have it be a "working group" which meant you were here to work, not to
> just have it go into a folder in your email program or not to just
> lurk.  that creates a different kind of atmosphere than one where
> everyone is contributing.

everyone can still subscribe after a roll call ... It's clearly said
this is a working group ... people just subscribe and do nothing. I
still see it as a problem. Especially since we kinda agreed in the
beginning not to become a lurkerslist.


> so that's my small concern about participation.
>
> i know that we currently have boud, jay, bart, gaba, dri, myself

there's toni in the uk. but he doesn't send much to the list about his
progress :-)

> occasionally (i backed off alot the last year) and a few others who jump
> in occasionally.  i've heard from a few people that they would like to
> help out and that is great.  i've also remember people from new imcs say
> that they wanted to help out and i haven't seen that happen.
>
> are there others on this list who want to help share the
> responsibilities of this critical list?  if you haven't done it but are
> interested, i'm sure there are people who have been doing it for a while
> who would help you.
>
> we also need someone to volunteer to write up a summary to share with
> the rest of the network.  we need to reinvigorate that project again,
> which helps us keep the entire network aware of what is happening. we've
> grown so fast it's hard to keep up.

I agree
Bart
(not yet talking about strikes again :-)))))

>
> solidarity,
> sheri
>
> At 4:07 PM +0100 12/1/02, PseudoPunk wrote:
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>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> first the personal part. I'm quite busy getting a local imc organised
>> here (see IMC West-Vlaanderen mail). So I don't have that much time
>> available for global stuff.
>>
>> Is there anyone who can take over the european applications ? or
>> dividing them among people ? I still volunteer to do the french ones
>> (since I now have a lot of contacts there). let something now. If we
>> want rotation in imc, we'll have to do it anyway...
>>
>> Are there volunteers for other regions ? Since jay left it seems a lot
>> of mails are unanswerred ? or did I check that too fast ?
>>
>> Bart
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