[New-imc] Participation on this list (was PROCESS - rethinking this list ?- europe contacts)

Mon Dec 2 12:12:39 PST 2002

blue pi heeft geschreven:
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> ---- Original Message ----
> Von: sheri at indymedia.org
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>
>>thanks bart for bringing this up.
>>
>>can we get a sense of who on this list is available to do these
>>applications.  i'm not sure how many people we currently have on the
>>list (maybe 40 people - list admin how many people are on the
>>list?),
>
>
> after all that doesn't seem to much to me (in Germnay we have 300
> people on our list and only ten at the most participate, so we are
> doing fine here relativly speaking :))

the difference is we clearly said in the beginning this isn't a good way
for a working group. If only 10 of the 300 people at your work would do
something ...

>
>
>>but since this list is a working group, i think that if you are
>>here,
>>you hopefully are interested in working and contributing, in small
>>and large ways.  that is the definition of a "working group".
>>
>
>
> Speaking for myself: Here in Beirut I only have internet access at
> work, only one person in our indymedia group has Internet at home and
> it always breaks down, e.g. after every rainfall, which is quite
> often now in winter. So this makes it difficult to participate on all
> kinds of lists.
>
> Anyhow as I said before I would like to be responsible for
> applications coming from the Middle East, there just haven't been any
> since I am on this list. Should I check on Istanbul or Marocco,

Istanbul is approved since months.
Morocco maybe needs some help ... don't know.
Bart

 see
> how they are doing? Acctually I don't know what there status is, I
> just saw, that there are groups there (don't even know where I saw
> that.) So maybe soneone could brief me on that?
>
> solidarity
> blue
>
>
>>it's confusing to me when it comes to participation in indymedia
>>network issues like this one (there are many others) because we have
>>such low participation rates.  it's almost like our voting record in
>>america which is the lowest in the entire world.  what does that
>>mean?  sometimes it's very disappointing to me.  we have many people
>>on these lists and 100 imcs in the network, but we continue to have
>>a
>>handful of people who do all the network work, whether that be tech
>>support or features or communication or coordinating or anything,
>>and
>>i don't think that this is the ideal.  we have ideals of democracy
>>but democracy is about people participating.
>>
>>when we first set up this list, i really felt like it was important
>>to have it be a "working group" which meant you were here to work,
>>not to just have it go into a folder in your email program or not to
>>just lurk.  that creates a different kind of atmosphere than one
>>where everyone is contributing.
>>
>>so that's my small concern about participation.
>>
>>i know that we currently have boud, jay, bart, gaba, dri, myself
>>occasionally (i backed off alot the last year) and a few others who
>>jump in occasionally.  i've heard from a few people that they would
>>like to help out and that is great.  i've also remember people from
>>new imcs say that they wanted to help out and i haven't seen that
>>happen.
>>
>>are there others on this list who want to help share the
>>responsibilities of this critical list?  if you haven't done it but
>>are interested, i'm sure there are people who have been doing it for
>>a while who would help you.
>>
>>we also need someone to volunteer to write up a summary to share
>>with
>>the rest of the network.  we need to reinvigorate that project
>>again,
>>which helps us keep the entire network aware of what is happening.
>>we've grown so fast it's hard to keep up.
>>
>>solidarity,
>>sheri
>>
>>At 4:07 PM +0100 12/1/02, PseudoPunk wrote:
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>>>Hey Everyone,
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>>>first the personal part. I'm quite busy getting a local imc
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>>organised
>>
>>>here (see IMC West-Vlaanderen mail). So I don't have that much time
>>>available for global stuff.
>>>
>>>Is there anyone who can take over the european applications ? or
>>>dividing them among people ? I still volunteer to do the french ones
>>>(since I now have a lot of contacts there). let something now. If we
>>>want rotation in imc, we'll have to do it anyway...
>>>
>>>Are there volunteers for other regions ? Since jay left it seems a
>>
>>lot
>>
>>>of mails are unanswerred ? or did I check that too fast ?
>>>
>>>Bart
>>>- --
>>>"Intellectuals are the shoeshine boys of the ruling elite"
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