[New-imc] Re: Zimbabwe IMC ready to go...
Sheri
sheri at indymedia.org
Sat Mar 2 20:29:02 PST 2002
hi,
i'd like to support evan's suggestion, either a or b is fine with me.
from what i can see, if we go with the spirit of what we're trying to
do here and not the more legalistic follow all the rules way, the
zimbabwe group has approved the principles of unity? is that right
zim admin?
you wrote:
>this hasn't, however, stopped people reading and
>> > > approving the imc
>> > > principles of unity (printed out and distributed at
>> > > meetings). we don't have
> > > an email audit trail,
in that way, the group of people who have been meeting are down with
these values/principles/criteria?
so we go with either plan a or b and then we hold on the cities list
(left hand column) pending formal approval - which would be the email
trail of your collective's approval, an introductory statement, and
some follow up conversations to make sure things are all okay.
these are extenuating circumstances. and evan's suggestion doesn't
compromise our process.
the reason these principles and membership criteria are here is not
to hinder people from doing the amazing work like you are doing, and
many other groups in less crisis-driven and inspired circumstances,
but rather to have a clear sense of who is joining the network and
that they understand what responsibilities there are when joining.
it's a relationship. also, some collectives don't realize how much
work it takes to hold an imc together and so these guidelines and
principles and criteria help people to build that foundation so that
the imc will be able to last through an event. they are not there to
impede a group's work, they are there to maintain and support a
vision and the building of something bigger than ourselves alone
could do.
i recently spoke with someone about africa's overall crisis and when
asked about what was the most important place right now in terms of
turning the tide, the person said zimbabwe. for this reason, i also
feel we must go with the spirit of our process and help get the site
up.
in solidarity and love
sheri
At 4:00 PM -0800 3/2/02, <evan at protest.net> wrote:
>One thing we could do is kind of weird. We should point
>zimbabwe.indymedia.org at a temp page which has a logo and says something
>about zimbabwe indymedia joing the network then we could redirect to the
>current url until you've finished the process.
>
>Or we could say this is an extenuating circumstance and link
>zimbabwe.indymedia.org directly and wait on the cities list for later. I
>personally would be find with that but then i've met and talked with you
>in person which makes a difference. What do the rest of you all doing
>new-imc work thing?
>
>in solidarity,
>evan
>
>On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Zimbabwe Indymedia wrote:
>
>> Hey y'all
>>
>> Update from Zimbabwe again. Thanks MR for the comment - you're more right
>> than you know; we had to abandon our Bulawayo meeting yesterday because we'd
>> been told that the govt goons had heard about it, and were coming for us
>> with large sticks. Discretion being the better part of valour, we cancelled
>> and ran.
>>
>> The few of us who regrouped figured that a way around this constant
>> intimidation would be to put an ad or two in a newspaper asking more people
>> to join the online process list, after having a look at the site as it now
>> stands. To do this, we'd quite like to advertise a stable url. Don't want to
>> push the process list into moving ahead with registering zimbabwe.syntac.net
>> as zimbabwe.indymedia.org if you don't feel that we're quite ready, but it'd
>> be nice to have the url...!
>>
>> Onward!
>> Zim Admin
>>
>>
>> >From: M R <miketivist at yahoo.com>
>> >To: Zimbabwe Indymedia <zimimc at hotmail.com>, rabble at protest.net
>> >CC: new-imc at indymedia.org
>> >Subject: Re: [New-imc] Re: Zimbabwe IMC ready to go...
>> >Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:11:22 -0800 (PST)
>> >
>> >Because of the repression and insane tactics in the
> > >Zimbabwe election I think we need to get this site up
> > >soon.
> > >
> > >The posts on the Zim site are pretty informative &
> > >definitely not stories making it to the US press &
>> >likely not elsewhere either. By making such coverage
>> >available, especially before the voting takes place,
>> >can let others in the Zimbabwe community know that the
>> >truth is coming out and to have the courage to vote
>> >their convictions. This site could have the power to
>> >affect lives there. At the very least, these indy
>> >reporters are risking theirs getting involved in
>> >illegal, non-government coverage.
>> >
>> >-m
>> >
>> >
>> >--- Zimbabwe Indymedia <zimimc at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > hi gang
>> > >
>> > > here's the thing. many of the people who are
>> > > interested in the imc are
>> > > barely computer literate, and have troubled access
>> > > to email. the meetings in
>> > > harare, and tonight bulawayo, have been held at the
>> > > back of people's houses
>> > > because the police are after us, will beat us if
>> > > they find us (these
>> > > gatherings are illegal) and have stooges in internet
>> > > cafes looking over our shoulders.
>> > >
> > > > this hasn't, however, stopped people reading and
>> > > approving the imc
>> > > principles of unity (printed out and distributed at
>> > > meetings). we don't have
> > > > an email audit trail, unfortunately, because we've
>> > > been too busy mobilising
>> > > and training folk on how to post stuff.
>> > >
>> > > bearing in mind the limited time available (8 days
>> > > to elections and upheaval
>> > > thereafter), though understanding that you've little
>> > > in the way of proof
>> > > that this is more than just a virtual community,
>> > > what do folk think?
>> > >
>> > > cheers, ever
>> > > zim admin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: Evan <rabble at protest.net>
>> > > >To: Zimbabwe Indymedia <zimimc at hotmail.com>
>> > > >CC: <new-imc at indymedia.org>
>> > > >Subject: Re: Zimbabwe IMC ready to go...
>> > > >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:37:02 -0800 (PST)
>> > > >
>> > > >basically you really need to read through the new
>> > > imc process documents at
>> > > >newimc.indymedia.org and go through the process
>> > > before we can setup thE
>> > > >zimbabwe.indymedia.org domain name for you. The
>> > > site looks good, but the
>> > > >point of the process is to get folks to particpate
>> > > in the network and to
>> > > >make sure that you are familure with the indymedia
>> > > workings. Also we like
>> > > >to do this so that the new imc is reflective of a
>> > > real group and not just a virtual project.
>> > > >
>> > > >That said we do have a process for new imc's which
>> > > form right before a
>> > > >major action. Basically we include them in the
>> > > upcoming events listing on
>> > > >the global indymedia site and we can do a feature
>> > > about it. I know at some
>> > > >times we've also given then imcname.indymedia.org
>> > > domain name out early
>> > > >just not listed them on the cities list until
>> > > they've gone through the process.
>> > > >
>> > > >I think we should definately do the upcoming
>> > > actions and feature, but what
>> > > >do people think about the domain name?
>> > > >
>> > > >in solidarity,
>> > > >evan
>> >
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