[New-imc] talking on the phone
gabelula
gabelula at adinet.com.uy
Thu Mar 7 11:15:01 PST 2002
claro. pero yo decia hablar de escuchar la voz.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Xare" <xare2002 at hotmail.com>
To: <new-imc at indymedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [New-imc] talking on the phone
> Ya tenemos irc.indymedia.org
> Podemos abrir una habitación de chat y hablar ahí.
>
> We already have irc.indymedia.org
> We can open a chat room and speak there.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gabelula" <gabelula at adinet.com.uy>
> To: <new-imc at indymedia.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [New-imc] talking on the phone
>
>
> > ((english below))
> >
> > No se si una llamada telefonica podria ser lo más saludable para
nuestros
> > bolsillos ... pero existe la posibilidad de hablar mediante chat como el
> msn
> > (hotmail) por ejemplo. Aca en casa lo uso aveces para comunicarnos con
mi
> > tio en brasil y se escucha como si estuvieras en el telefono común y
> > corriente ...
> > Se podria usar cuando por mail cuando sentimos que hay malos entendidos.
> > Para casos puntuales.
> > un abrazo
> > gaba (gabelula at hotmail.com)
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >
> > I don't know if a telephone call would be good for our pocket ... but we
> > could talk through chat like msn (hotmail) for example. Here, at home i
> use
> > it sometimes to talk to Brasil y we listen like we were talking on the
> phone
> > ...
> > Perhaps we can use it when we feel that the email is getting confuse our
> > communication. In some cases.
> > a hug
> > gaba (gabelula at hotmail.com)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay" <jay at tao.ca>
> > To: <new-imc at indymedia.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:24 AM
> > Subject: [New-imc] talking on the phone
> >
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I know this is going to sound stupid and simplistic, but I've been
> > thinking
> > > a lot about the miscommunication that happens regularly in the imc
> > network,
> > > especially in regard to new IMCs coming into Indymedia, and about ways
> to
> > > clear it up. I've realized lately how easy it is to forget that there
> > > exists such a wonderful invention as the telephone. Can you
imagine --
> in
> > > the past people actually talked to each other by voice, connecting "in
> > > person," rather than just shooting e-mails at each other? I know, I
> know,
> > > it sounds crazy, but some of these telephone things still exist, and I
> > > actually think they're pretty functional. I have seen many a
confusing
> > and
> > > frustrating e-mail discussion turn ugly due, at least in great part,
to
> > the
> > > fact that e-mail can be a pretty awful way to communicate. People so
> > > easily get frustrated with each other while reading e-mails,
> misunderstand
> > > nuances, don't appreciate jokes, or even -- heavens forbid! -- forget
to
> > > make any. I've been overwhelmed by the tremendous amount of
cameraderie
> > > that exists between Indymedia people when we're all in the same
physical
> > > space, working together to accomplish the impossible. Put those same
> > > people in an e-mail discussion though, and sometimes you'll find each
of
> > > them writing as "loudly" as they can, not taking the time to really
try
> to
> > > understand what the other is saying.
> > >
> > > I'm writing this not to wax nostalgic about the past, nor to blast
> e-mail
> > > as a form of communication (without which none of us would be here).
> I'm
> > > just saying that we've had a bunch of miscommuncation lately that may
> not
> > > have happened, at least in the same way, if people (myself included)
had
> > > connected at some point on the telephone. Now that we have started to
> do
> > a
> > > better job of regionalizing our new-imc communication, perhaps we can
> use
> > > that decentralization to our advantage by more easily reaching out to
> > > aspiring IMCs, preferably face to face but, when that's improbable, on
> the
> > > phone, especially toward the initial stages of our communication. I
> know
> > > that may be very impractical and essentially impossible in many places
> > > around the world, and I'm not saying we should try to replace the work
> we
> > > do here with phone chats, I'm just saying that at any point if we
start
> to
> > > have miscommunication, when a phone call may help avoid problems or
> bridge
> > > a gap, we shouldn't forget that's an option. If the time has come for
> an
> > > essential phone call or two, especially ones that would be made in
order
> > to
> > > solve some communication problem, and the only obstacle to your
reaching
> > > out in that way is lack of funds, let me know and, within reason of
> > course,
> > > I'd be happy to put my money where my mouth -- er, my keyboard -- is
to
> > > help make it happen.
> > >
> > > Just a late night thought from a late night kinda guy,
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
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