[New-imc] LGBT groups and IMC Ambazonia

valentine V eben vally_x at lycos.com
Thu Nov 28 13:45:29 PST 2002


Hi Boud ! We are trying to outreach EVERYBODY. Before we ever had the list and even after the list and throught phone call we try to talk to people to participate in the IMC project. Our clarification is that if people are able to exchange their information on a platform that offers thesame space for all then some of the conflicts in society will not be there.  I think IMC is about fighting oppression which the situation of LGBT groups is quite clear. Me and Frank discussed this over the phone.( Frank is one of the persons that is at the forefront of the project there). A link to IMC documents is included in the welcome msg that goes to new subscribers to our list.
To help all aqauint themselves with what the network stands for.

I work with alot of Lesbian groups and other gay activist in Germany.
You surely are not going to advice me to ask everyone in our imc to make sure they look for an LGBT group and start working with.
There is not an openly functioning LGBT groups in Ambazonia or French Cameroon.
LGBT groups are not Organised in Ambazonia or in French Cameroon. Thus just copying what is written in the network draft and pasting it for those in the territory as an introduction for what Ambazonia IMC stands for is surely not difficult.  The problem is there is neither an open LGBT community nor groups fightering specifically for the rights of LGBT groups in Ambazonia or Cameroon.  

It will be like this; Saying that IMC.DC or other North American IMCs should include in their introduction that they are fighting against tribalism. These IMCS surely do stand against tribalism but there are not organised tribes groups in their societies in a struggle.
And you have to come to terms with the fact that the network draft does not mentioned all oppressed minorities in the world.
Valentine 
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:04:55  
 boud wrote:
>< indymedia cross-post:
>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/new-imc
>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-ambazonia-contact
>info at mask.org.za 
>cshsp at wanadoo.fr>
>
>hi vally and the other Ambazonians,
>
>On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, valentine V eben wrote:
>
>> Hello Boud! Thanks for responding to our mail.
>
>>  I hope I answer your concerns properly. If I don’t please do not
>> hesitate to indicate. In trying to answer I assume that some other
>> persons in the network have the same thoughts as evident in some
>> other communication.
>
>Thanks for answering so fully and for opening up the list archives.
>i think your answers - and the archives - should help everyone to
>get to know each other and build up trust.
>
>Since petros asked about LGBT groups, i wonder if you could say
>something here? Do you have some contacts with LGBT groups in
>Ambazonia (or diaspora), or are you hoping to include them in your
>outreach efforts?
>
>i spent a few minutes with
>
>http://www.google.com
>
>so maybe the following links might be useful to put you in contact:
>
>- a group based in South Africa but seems to have interest in other
>parts of Africa:
>http://www.mask.org.za/index2.html
>http://www.mask.org.za/SECTIONS/About%20us/about_index.html
>http://www.mask.org.za/SECTIONS/AfricaPerCountry/ABC/cameroon/cameroon_3F.htm
>
>- an artist's site:
>http://www.blackout.ee/gallery/
>
>- pages of gay "sans papiers" in France, may be Ambazonian diaspora
>http://home.nordnet.fr/~jlpavaut/GAY/pagegay.htm
>
>solidarno¶æ
>boud
>
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