[New-imc] Re: outreach - variety of participating groups, individuals

[Jó --]

Hi,

I will put the question to them and I can try to meat them if necessary. I
been seen the site they mantain regardinf their solcial center and they
develope quite a lot of activities. That doen't mean the have done much
effort regarding outreach but suppose it would make it easy for them to do
so.

In solidaruty
Jó


> hi everyone at IMC Galiza,
> 
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 strafwetboek at hacklab.casaencantada.org wrote:
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> > Hi boud
> > 
> > that's ok, thank you very much. I have not contacted you because I was
> > waiting for the reply of the madrid people, who as you probably now are
in
> > troubles now. I have subscribed flow (yes, he is from madrid) to the
> > imc-galiza mailing list an also the other people who has helped us in
this
> > time.
> > 
> > of course I want to guess you to join our list.
> 
> Thanks for the compliment :). But the problem is i've spent too much
> time on new-imc, helping new IMCs, and am hoping to be able to
> concentrate on my local IMC instead. There's also the principle of
> non-hierarchy. Having the same person doing a task for too long risks
> giving that person too much power.
> 
> jó from IMC Portugal has offered to help and i think will get to know
> you.
> 
> 
> > at this time, we are working off-line (over the paper) at the editorial

> > policy and mission statement. We come from a more than ten years alive
> > project of automanagement, and we are dealing with the conciliation of
> > both projects. But we hope to find a solution at last.
> > 
> > thank you very much for your help in any case.
> 
> 
> OK. If you look carefully through 
> 
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo
> (or if it's down, the non-TWiki version
> http://newimc.indymedia.org)
> 
> you'll see that outreach is important. 
> 
> It sounds to me like you have a great autonomous, progressive group
> going. This is good, of course! :)
> 
> However, and i may be wrong here, it seems that you only have one
> group involved. Maybe it's just that you forgot to say it, but from
> the way you've said things so far, it seems like you're asking for
> your present group to be recognised as the Galiza IMC collective,
> rather than creating an open cooperation, network between a variety of
> different groups and individuals.
> 
> The idea of indymedia is to get a diversity of activist groups
> together. Often the formula is "geeks" + "anarchists" + "leftists",
> though of course this is oversimplifying. 
> 
> Of course the tech side is important, and having *one* key group which
> is experienced in non-hierarchical, autonomous activism is an
> excellent start.
> 
> But there needs to be the process of talking to people in other groups
> - even though they are probably quite hierarchical - and finding ways
> in which the people from the different groups can come together, can
> really participate, can meet face-to-face in open, public meetings, in
> a way in which there is a style of discussion, decision-making, etc
> where it is is unlikely that the hierarchical groups (or even the
> "non-hierarchical" groups) will "take control".
> 
> When you work through the membership criteria (i saw a short answer
> on the list archive, but i don't think there was anything said about
> the different participating groups, the decision-making process, 
> how/when/where public meetings are held, etc.), you'll see the 
> "people organising techniques" which seem to be useful to other IMCs.
> 
> If jó or someone else could go to one of your face-to-face meetings,
> i'm sure that would help a lot - meeting face-to-face, just getting
> to know and understand one another, giving hints on how to do outreach
> and diversification, on how to organise a meeting, implement consensual
> decision-making etc., can often help improve trust and understanding.
> 
> Anyway, i'm sure jó has a better understanding of the local situation
> than i do and can help you contact different groups and invite them
> to fully participate...
> 
> There's nothing to stop you setting up a web site with an indymedia
> engine running while at the same time you organise the people side.
> But the people side is important. It may be slow - people take time to
> get to know each other, to learn non-dominating ways of relating - but
> it's worth it.
> 
> solidarity
> boud
> 
> 
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