[New-imc] Re: imc baghdad info

[Sheri Herndon]

as far as US volunteers not being the ones to work with this 
application, i am fine with that.  i'm merely trying to help 
acilitate a process in whatever way i can and to work with others in 
a collaborative environment from this group.  as i'm american and not 
from the middle east, i will happily allow others from the region to 
work more closely with folks in iraq.  i say this even while agree 
with blue's really great observation in her earlier email.

peace,
sheri
seattle imc

At 12:01 PM -0400 4/24/03, Mike R wrote:
>Hi Geoffrey,
>
>I think these are good and important points.  We need to make sure
>that this is a local group.  This is a new situation that we haven't
>faced before, an IMC establishing itself on the heels of an illegal
>invasion by a world superpower.  However, I do not think world
>propaganda will be a big worry.  There were a lot of concerns on how
>the Jerusalem IMC would be used as an example by pro-Sharon
>anti-Palestinian forces for all sorts of propagandist purposes, but
>that never happened (outside of all the pro-Israel hate speech that is
>spammed on the open newswire).
>
>There were some contacts from Iraq a while back, but I do not remember
>if they were from Iraqis or from Western volunteers wanting to start
>an IMC.  If they were Iraqis, we should be in touch with them amd
>continue trying to build a local collective.  Otherwise we do tread
>the line of appearing to the local populace as a part of the US
>propaganda invasion.
>
>I agree to with Petros' proposal that non-US volunteers be the New IMC
>volunteers to get a proposal passed through.  I feel US volunteers can
>work with the IMC once it is established, but not be the facilitators
>of its opening.
>
>-Mike
>Philly IMC
>
>Wednesday, April 23, 2003, 11:13:54 AM, Geoffrey said:
>
>GY> geoffrey in winipeg
>GY> I agree with petros here almost completely with what petros says.  I do
>GY> forsee a problem arising, if only initially after an iraq launch (no pun
>GY> intended) which would be the media finding out about an imc there and
>GY> taking hold of it for propaganda reasons (see how free the iraqis are now
>GY> we're here, they even have indymedia) which would serve not only to make
>GY> iraqis suspicious of imc but COULD harm global opinion of the imc.
>GY> the Iraqi contacts must indeed be chosen very carefully as ideally they
>GY> should be neither baathist nor pro american. and then theres god related
>GY> issues. It sounds like it could be a very tough order to fill.
>GY> geoffrey
>
>
>GY> ----------------------------------------------
>GY> Original Message
>GY> From: "Petros Evdokas"<petros_cyprus at burleehost.net>
>GY> Subject: [New-imc] Re: imc baghdad info
>GY> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:08:00 +0300
>
>>>
>>>In reference to this letter:
>>>"imc baghdad info":
>>>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2003-April/003725.html
>>>--------------
>>>
>>>Friends,
>>>
>>>I'm very worried about this: "IRAQ: IndyMedia Baghdad -
>>>coming soon!"
>>>Iraq is going through the most difficult period now
>>>that the US occupation regime is becoming officially
>>>entrenched in place.
>>>
>>>There must be *direct* contact between Indymedia and
>>>any Iraqi individuals/organizations who are interested
>>>in setting up any Iraqi imc group. If, at this point,
>>>we make the mistake of riding in on the tails of the
>>>invaders, Indymedia will *never* be trusted by anyone
>>>in Iraq. Or in the wider region. And correctly so.
>>>
>>>There must be no "american intermediaries" between
>>>Indymedia and any Iraqi contacts who are interested in
>>>imc. And whoever the Iraqi contacts may be, must be
>>>known to us and to their own community to have
>>>absolutely *nothing* to do with the new regime being
>>>set up by the United States Occupation forces.
>>>
>>>We're already jumping into the "money and equipment"
>>>issues of this project as we often do, without a second
>>>thought. Can we please slow down? Please let's come to
>  >>our senses: Politics first!
>>>Let's establish a *political* relationship with whoever
>>>these people are, and we can take it from there.
>>>
>>>Petros,
>>>volunteer, cyprus indymedia
>>>http://PetrosEvdokas.cjb.net
>>>--------------
>Mike
>mailto:micro.zen at verizon.net
>PhillyIMC
>
>
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