[New-imc] CANCUN - internal new-imc DEADLINE 10:00 GMT Sunday 10 Aug 2003

[Sheri Herndon]

Hi Boud, all,

thanks for putting the time into this.  

my one question is whether we need a week on imc-process given that this is not the same as a regular imc process.  so i think we can have a stream-lined process for this.  it is not a permanent collective, it's needed for an event.  it might be useful to establish a kind of policy or procedure for these immediate domain name needs that aren't attached to a local collective but to an event that has a short time span.

also, is there someone on this list who can answer bart's question about people linking to the stories off cancun.indymedia?  this does seem to be an important consideration.  i just don't have an answer about how stories are archived and whether it has notthing to do with the name of the site.

peace,
sheri

>hi everyone,
>   The Cancun WTO will be held from 10-14 September, so IMHO we have
>enough time to go through the normal time delays (3 days on new-imc, 7
>days on imc-process) with a more formal proposal. Without a formal
>proposal, the chances of misunderstandings are too great on such a
>sensitive subject...
>
>micah wrote 
>Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:33:55 -0400
>> If the new-imc working group decides, then we will be more than happy
>> to do it.
>
>IMHO we have time to go through imc-process as well - my concept of
>new-imc is that we should to do everything possible to restrict our
>power to communication and recommendations, not final decisions. Since
>the IMC Italy proposal went through, i think it should go OK through
>imc-process - anyone who feels that this would be a disaster for the
>network has about 10 days to get his/her local IMC to discuss this
>and make a collective block from that local IMC, not just an individual.
>
>solidarity
>boud
>
>
>
>######################################################################
>[en]
>PROPOSAL Cancun domain - deadline SUN 10 Sept 2003
>
>The Cancun support group including IMC Chiapas wish to have a temporary
>use of the cancun domain name for the WTO meeting 10-14 Sept 2003.
>They have an indymedia-software site
>http://cancun.mediosindependientes.org/
>but there is not yet any local, self-organised, autonomous indymedia
>group there. It is proposed that:
>
>(1) The domain name cancun.indymedia.org be given for use by the
>support group 
>(2) The domain name will be deallocated on 14 October 2003, and will
>not be used again for the site until a real, local group has gone 
>through the full new-imc process.
>(3) cancun will *not* be added to the cities list, it will only be
>given the temporary domain name.
>(4) The people organising the  http://cancun.mediosindependientes.org/
>site will place a prominent (obvious) notice on the web site that:
>(4a) there is not yet any local indymedia group in Cancun 
>(4b) that locals are encouraged to organised if they wish, with
>a link to http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/NewImcHowTo or an [es]
>version of the page
>(4c) that the "cancun.indymedia.org" domain name will become invalid
>from 14 October 2003, only the alternative names will function
>
>[fr]
>PROPOSITION domaine Cancun - échéance DIM 10 sep 2003
>
>Le groupe de soutien Cancun, dont le groupe IMC Chiapas, souhaite
>utiliser temporairement le nom de domaine Cancun pour la rencontre WTO
>10-14 sep 2003. Il y a actuellement un site qui tourne sous un logiciel
>type indy
>http://cancun.mediosindependientes.org/
>mais il n'y a pas encore de groupe local, auto-organisé, autonome 
>d'indymédia
>là-bas. Il est proposé que :
>
>(1) Le nom de domaine cancun.indymedia.org soit utilisé chez le groupe
>de soutien
>(2) Ce nom de domaine soit annulé le 14 oct 2003, et ne sera pas 
>réutilisé avant qu'un groupe réel, local se soit organisé selon le plein
>processus new-imc.
>(3) Cancun *ne* sera *pas* rajouté à la liste cities.inc; il n'aura
>qu'un nom de domaine temporaire.
>(4) Ceux et celles qui organisent  
>http://cancun.mediosindependientes.org/
>mettra des avertissements évidents sur le site annonçant que :
>(4a) il n'existe pas encore de group local indymedia Cancun
>(4b) les locaux sont encouragé-e-s s'organiser s'ils et elles le 
>souhaitent,
>avec un lien sur http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/NewImcHowTo ou
>une traduction [es] de cette page
>(4c) le nom de domaine "cancun.indymedia.org" sera non-fonctionnel à 
>partir
>de 14 oct 2003, seuls les noms alternatifs fonctionneront.
>######################################################################
>
>
>On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Pseudo Punk wrote:
>
>> Sheri Herndon <sheri at speakeasy.org> wrote:
>> > hi everyone,
>> > 
>
>> > i've been working with timo and luz (imc chiapas) on the cancun
>> > events for a while.  it is going to be an incredible convergence
>> > in many respects.  i have read through all the emails concerning
>> > this request on the new imc list, and i hope that we can make a
>> > decision on this soon.
>
>> >  i am very supportive of using cancun.indymedia.org on a temporary
>> > basis for this event.  the archive after the event can be kept at
>> > www.indymedia.org/wto-cancun or however we decide best to archive
>> > and make it accessible.
>
>
>>  I see an additional reason why taking a temporary cancun.indy can
>> be bad. if people linke to cancun.indy.org/articlex, after some
>> weeks they will be unusable. Since it's much likely tons of imc's &
>> other indypendent media will link to articles/features there, is
>> this what we want ? Or is there an easy tech solution to overcome
>> this ?
>
>i don't understand the subtleties of DNS, but my guess is that the only
>easy technical solution is... to keep the domain name alive...
>
>IMHO, a human solution is easier - see the proposal above.
>
> 
>> but if cancun.indy is just temporal i don't necessarly have many 
>problems with it.
>> Bart
>> 
>
>
>
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