[New-imc] indymedia estrecho :: help needed with server

[osfa_wewearbuildings]

hi blicero
hi compas

thanks for the message.

i just got the list pword from mtoups / thanks_

open lists:
i did send boud´s observation to indymedia estrecho coordination
list. Not many answers yet. We have the issue of marrocco for
instance. Ali Lmrabet, an independet journalist, just got sent
to three years of jail because of critical comments to the king...

Let´s keep this discussion open for a while until we can take
the right collective decission - indymedia estrecho and indymedia
global -.

server:
i am not coordinating tech, but it looks like me might have the
server ready in pittsburgh pretty soon. We are just waiting for
some ssh accounts.

Europe / Africa
If it is an either / or alternative, i have to go back to indymedia
estrecho network. 
However, the idea of having a transnational indymedia is an interesting
innovation. This is an issue that will be addressed at a debate
at n5m, as one of the questions for the future developmente of
the network.

Will keep up with news.

best, ¡arriba los que luchan! _ osfa (((i))) madiaq / estrecho


love and peace, always better with cyborgs!

>--- Original Message ---
>From: Blicero <blicero at ecn.org>
>To: osfa_wewearbuildings <osfa at wewearbuildings.cc>
>Date: 8/22/03 4:42:38 PM
>
> we do have a problem with the list. We asked for an indymedia
>> list early in the process and it looks like we got it: imc-estrecho
>> but then the password never got to us - or we lost the message.
>> and i keep sending mails to different addresses with no answer.
>> can anyone help with this or suggest who to contact?
>> 
>
>i can give you teh passwd
>get me on irc
>
>> We do have now a bunch of lists, that we haven´t opened at
indymedia
>> because that part of the process has been a bit opaque to
me
>> who have been working as contact person. It is probably because
>> it takes a while to learn one´s way around the processes.
>> 
>
>you just needed to ask :)
>
>> I will send an mail to our different lists to ask people to
make
>> the lists open / public. I wouldn´t say they are¨"secret"
however,
>> people just have to suscribe and our policy has been to let
join
>> the list to whoever applied.
>> 
>
>well normally wee keep subscription/archive public and make
addresses appear not
>recognizable as email address so as to limit spam to individuals
participating
>to list
>in some rare cases we suggested closed list if the political
situation does not
>make it very safe to have open lists
>
>
>> server:
>> We got a bit stucked with the server. From very early on we
were
>> offered space in texas, but then it seems like the server
there
>> doesn´t support sf-active which is the code that we are using.
>> 
>> I believe pseudopunk is helping chaser, our tech contact person,
>> with finding a new one... i´ll keep you guys informed.
>> 
>
>he is
>either in us or in london at ahimsa :)
>
>> Europe / Africa:
>> As far as the Europe / Africa election... that´s a difficult
>> one. In our statements we asked to be placed in some kind
of
>> new category. Actually the imc-estrecho indymedia list -still
>> inactive because of the admin problems- is placed in the global
>> category. A good alternative as far as i am personally concerned
>> would be to be on both spaces: Europe AND Africa. 
>> 
>
>well it's kind of difficult
>try to come to reason with people in your collective
>it's not so big a deal after all :)
>
>> Cities list:
>> I do have a proposal about the indymedia cities list:
>> I find kind of strange to have categories such as United States,
>> Europe, Canada, Latin America, Africa.
>> 
>> Wouldn´t it be more... democratic... or let´s say egalitarina,
>> or even logical to have strictly continents or regions: that
>> is to eliminate United States as a category and put Northamerica
>> instead?
>> 
>
>well the reason for this go back in time
>we basically stick to region (not necessarily continent-wide)
>us and canada having A LOT of imc seemed easier to separate
than to keep in the
>same north-america section
>
>and the rule is 
>local decide
>so if all european imc decided to be listed under European Union,
global network
>would follow (we will NEVER do that don't worry :)))))
>
>ciao
>blicero
>italy imc
>
>