[New-imc] Nothing to prevent Right-Wing IMC

[clara]

Sorry for repeating this question:

Beachcities claims on its website that they already are in the new-imc process.

1) Are they?
I couldn't find anything on it, so to me that might just a be a lie, a fake 
site, abusing the name of Indymedia.
Given the content I would see it at the moment as a way an attack on 
Indymedia,

2) We already had to take the url www.indymedia.tk off a German fachist 
organisation who at least didn't set up the site looking like an Indymedia 
site.

So before we speculate whether they might fulfill the criteria:

Have beachcities been in contact with Indymedia?

In solidarity,
Clara


At 08:51 30-8-2003, xare at sindominio.net wrote:
> >
> > This is a problem I raised back when I was trying to start
> > IMC-Binghamton (currently on-hold). It seems to me that there are two
> > process features which are going to ultimately cause problems:
> >
> > 1) Strict Consensus -- I know this is has been discussed ad nauseum, but
> >    we all witnessed the global blocks by IMC Ithaca, and this has never
> > properly addressed, IMHO. Banning Arc simply swept this problem under
> > the carpet for a while. I suggest a 2/3 super-majority, assuming the
> > mission statement is never violated.
> >
> > 2) Lack of any kind of lefty-radical-progressive-counterculture
> > political
> >    litmus test.
>Well we do not have to go that far, in order to become an indymedia site
>you need to approve Principles of unity and Membership criteria.
>
>We have strong reasons to reject Beach cities:
>Principles of Unity
>10. All IMC's shall be committed to the principle of human equality, and
>shall not discriminate, including discrimination based upon race, gender,
>age, class or sexual orientation. Recognizing the vast cultural traditions
>within the network, we are committed to building [diversity] within our
>localities.
>
>Well watching the features they offer it is clear that this collective in
>the Beach cities area cannot fulfill this minimum rule.
>
>And now membership criteria asks us to:
>
>Have open and public meetings (no one group can have exclusionary
>"ownership" of an IMC).
>
>Let's ask them to publish a public meeting. And start with their reach out
>they may found some leftwingers, also I know that maybe there are not as
>many of them as desired in the area.
>
>j. (NOT FINALIZED): Have no official affiliation with any political party,
>state or candidate for office (comments: but individual producers have
>freedom to do whatever they like and local IMCs can "feature" stories
>about various political parties and initiatives),
>
>Here again they do not respect the equality principle and they ask for the
>vote to Arnold Schwartzeneger.
>
>So things being like that:
>1. We have to see if it is not a hoax and there is a collective asking us
>to belong to the network. I personally know what I will ask them. If the
>answers do not convince me then my answer will be a big NO.
>2. Here in the "thing" (Spanis State) we try to help other indymedias
>(better sometimes worse other times not for political reasons anyway)
>flourishing near here (now Indymedia Asturies is on the way), would not be
>interesting if people from LA collective visit that collective and we get
>to know first hand what is going on? I don´t know how easy it would be.
>I've never been to the US, and I don´t know the dimensions. Here in Europe
>everything is so small... :-)) (small people, small villages, small
>countries...) and we even want it smaller ;-)
>
>Now seriously I think there is no much to matter, there are clear reasons
>IMHO to say No to this collective if they ever asked.
>
>If not it would just enter the collection of anecdotas of indymedia's
>history.
>
>Bye
>
>
>
>
>
>
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