[New-imc] IMC: Anarchists or Authoritarians?

[boud]

hi bill,

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Bill Huston wrote:

> Thus spake boud:
> >   bill sent me an offlist email, so i won't quote his words,
> >but since the issues are public issues, i will respond here
> >on  imc-binghamton and new-imc.
> 
> boud, 
> 
> Your posting the contents of a private message to a public 
> forum is a rather gross breach of accepted internet ettiquette.

Fine.

You asked to create an Indymedia collective and posted public issues
about mailing lists in a private email. i avoided quoting your words,
and i don't see anything remotely personal in the general content.

If those sort of issues are not public issues, then i have problems
understanding the relation between what you want to do and Indymedia.

> I'm generally all for openness, however, this does not mean that
> any and all private communitations *should* be made public, without
> the prior consent of all parties involved.

Apologies if you feel i've revealed personal information.
 
> IMC-Binghamton, being autonomous, has and should have the power
> to make these decisions.

Sure. But the *collective* there will have to find some way of 
communicating with the network. If you can meet face-to-face with
geographically close IMCs and they think your collective is 
gone through the new-imc process, but you have closed mailing lists, fine.
 
> >bill, IMHO it would be much harder for local US people to see how
> >the IMC Binghamton collective is organising if the list has secret
> >archives. 
> 
> There is a difference between "secret" and "non-public". There are
> reasons why *for now*, this list will remain non-public, which I 
> discussed with you, and you should be understanding of. This is 

Sorry, i didn't see any reasons, so i don't understand them. It would
be better to explain them to someone geographically close who might
also better understand the socio-political conditions there, and who
is much more likely than i am to be able to network with your group
face-to-face.

> >For obvious reasons, people around the world are very much angry 
> >with "the USA", and people thinking of starting an Indymedia group 
> >in West Asia, South Asia, ... might be very suspicious about Indymedia 
> >if they could not read the archives and see things for themselves...
> 
> You are reading much into this. I seriously doubt that anyone in West Asia
> even knows Binghamton exists, nor cares about reading internal planning
> by its members. 

You'd be surprised. Most of the time people say nothing, but do have
a look to see what is happening. 
 
boud