[New-imc] IMC Istanbul/US members on this list/IMC beirut

[blue.pi]

Hi, 

Istanbul:
first of all I wondered whether the tech problems of IMC Istanbul aren't an 
issue we should be concerned with. I mean, we are here to help new imc's, 
but the most help most of them need is probably technical - if that's not 
working we can be just as friendly, caring and helpful as we want. They have 
asked people from mir now, if they can help them (see email below), but 
there one has rightly pointed out that the sf active site is almost finished 
and that it wouldn't make much sense to start all over again. Should we 
approach the sf active people and try to resolve the conflict they are 
apparently having? 

US:
Well, as boud has pointed out: We will never be able to manage if noone from 
the US is helping here. My suggestion: We should call for help on the US  
lists. 

IMC Beirut: I have just one remark, because Boud mentioned I should take 
this application to imc process: Petros is responsible for IMC Beirut (I 
couldn't be since I am part of the IMC, right?). By the way: Thanks Petros 
for your encouraging words. 

blue 


Get pgp key for bluepee3 at yahoo.com at www.keyserver.net 

 ----------Forwarded message ---------- 

From: <trez at squat.net>
To: <mir-coders at lists.indymedia.org>
Cc: <imc-germany-tech at lists.indymedia.org>
Subject: [Imc-germany-tech] [Fwd: about IMC Istanbul]
Sender: imc-germany-tech-admin at lists.indymedia.org 


hi there, 

best greetings from cuba ;)
i fwdd this because ithink they realy need help. i would set up a mir site
for them but they need it soon. so, could please voluneer anybody? 

cheers
trez 

 -------- Original Message --------
Subject: about IMC Istanbul
From: Balaban Cerit <balabancerit at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, January 29, 2003 6:33 pm
To: trez <trez at squat.net> 

Hi trez, 

Baris is down with the flu today. So here is the
'background info' you asked on IMC Istanbul: 

yes, we passed the new imc process and everything
else. In fact, we started live web production, but we
had some problems with the SF tech people (we had
contact with only one of them). Baris can give more
details on this subject, but let me say that, we
couldn't get the support we hoped to. The volunteer
from SF tech claims that the site:
http://istanbul.indymedia.org is 'fully functional'
and we can't understand how he can say that when none
of the links on the left column or top are working.
This is the situation for some weeks now. And since we
wanted to publicize IMC Istanbul before the Iraq war,
a considerable tension mounted between Istanbul and
the volunteer from SF tech. He claimed that we were
trying to push him around. But this was not so. Now,
it seems that we have to accept the site in this
condition, or wait for an indefinite amount of time,
which we can't. 

Now, the istanbul mailing group has more than 50
members, quite a number. Of course the meetings are
more smaller, not more than 20 people. There was a
natural decline in interest during the last months of
2002, because everybody was waiting for the technical
issues to be solved. Now, since we have started live
publishing in January, things are gaining momentum and
interest is on the rise; we have succeeded in
establishing a routine of publishing daily reports of
anti-war news from all around Turkey. And now we are
hoping that we can extend the scope. 

I joined the Istanbul initiative in the summer of
2002. The group was working and meeting long before
that. Attached you will find text documents of the
'indymedia-Istanbul statement of principles' dated May
2002. To ask for more details on the workings of the
group before 2002 summer and in general, you can write
to barkin at: barkinkarsli at yahoo.com 

As for 'mir', we will write to the mir coders list as
you say, since we have decided to use 'mir' and will
need their help soon. Does 'mir' run on Windows or
only on Unix? 

bon voyage to cuba, then. when do you depart? 

best regards, 

balaban 

 --- trez <trez at squat.net> wrote:
> hi baris,
> ok - if imc istanbul decides to use 'mir' the best
> way would be that
> you write a mail to the mir coders list;
> mir-coders at lists.indymedia.org
> telling the us what imc istanbul is, needs, plans,
> could be,.. 
>
> as i heard there has been some problems before [what
> happend with the
> sf tech people?]. may you can shortly tell us some
> ting about what
> happened so fare with imc istanbul? did imc istanbul
> pass the new imc
> process? would be wonderful  if you could gif us a
> sort overview about
> imc istanbul so we can begin to know each other a
> little bit more ... :) 
>
> me for my part i am going to cuba for one month. i
> will be back on
> beginning of march. and could help than. if you have
> decided already to
> use 'mir' and need help soon, may there will be
> other volunteers on the
> mir-list. to set up a new site is not that problem. 
>
> good luck ;) 
>
> best regards
> trez 
>
> On Samstag, Jan 25, 2003, at 13:16 Europe/Berlin, by
> wrote: 
>
> > hi Trez,
> > This is baris from istanbul IMC tech side.
> > What can I say is that Please make an installation
> for us on your
> > servers as soon as possible,
> > and let us start publishing immediately!
> >
> > I think we should make a translation for Turkish
> interface, please
> > send us required docs.
> > (we are planning a Kurdish interface as well in
> ther future, but first
> > we can start with Turkish only)
> >
> > So, if we can realize istanbul IMC on your
> servers, believe that MIR
> > team will be meisahs of IMC istanbul!
> >
> > PS: Please use balaban Cerit
> <balabancerit at yahoo.com> in your cc, he
> > is almost fully dedicated himself to this job.
> > Also We have friends in our organization who know
> German, maybe you
> > may prefer a mailing in German.
> >
> > my mobile: +90 532 251 03 35 ,  just leave a call,
> I can call you back.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > baris
> >
> >
> > Balaban Cerit wrote:
> >
> >> thank you trez, for your offer.
> >>
> >> we will examine 'mir' & the test site and reply
> in a
> >> few days.
> >>
> >> Just a few questions:
> >> If we decide to go ahead with mir; 1. What is
> your estimate of how
> >> many weeks the
> >> implementation will take?
> >> 2. What kind of an code-localization effort is
> needed?
> >> 3. What are the necessary qualifications for
> >> code-localization over here? I mean, for our
> technical
> >> friends over here?
> >>
> >> best regards,
> >>
 


Get pgp key for bluepee3 at yahoo.com at www.keyserver.net