[New-imc] Provisional IMC Venezuela

[boud]

hi rosa, 
  If you are only asking about making a sub-page on IMC Brazil,
i don't see any problem. That's a local decision for IMC Brazil
to make. i'm sure we trust you to talk CMI Venezuela through
the new-imc process!

BTW, there are several TWiki pages giving more info, corrections,
debate, etc about the new-imc process, linked from

http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImc

e.g.
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcPageImprovements
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcMailingListIssues

Please feel welcome to make translations/corrections/better
versions etc in .pt or .es if you think these may be useful
to Latin Americans.

BTW(2), there's an interesting comment about Chavez and Venezuelan 
party leaders at the WSF:

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=41&ItemID=3006

It's probably difficult (subtle) English, sorry, but i think
the CMI Venezuela people should be aware of this comment.

solidarity
boud


http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=41&ItemID=3006

>  Along with all this the Venezuelan government ended up defending
> themselves in the most incompetent and dogmatic way - when before
> they started everybody where pro-Chavez still thinking that it was
> possible to be pro-Chavez without buying everything a government
> does.

>  I saw President Hugo Chavez wear the same Attac badge I wear at his
> meeting with 35 party leaders, parliamentarians and
> intellectuals. There I realised that Attac Venezuela is a front
> organisation, in the classic Leninist conception, of the Venezuelan
> government. And I became part of the filthiest political play I've
> ever seen when Chavez decided to export his political problems to
> the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil having his government
> to organise a hearing on Venezuelan Media. The organisers' name is
> always in the lobby of a conference hall; it simply said Attac. And
> in the room there was some of the most well known and most respected
> intellectuals that had given their names and knowledge to a hearing
> officially organised by Attac. During the small meeting and later on
> in his speech in front of thousands of persons President Hugo Chavez
> said that - due to the criminal Venezuelan media - he might have to
> shut down a couple of TV-channels. What if Chavez would have shut
> down several TV channels - would he have used Naomi Klein's and
> Tariq Ali's name to legitimize that? And did something change when
> we tried to put forward proposals that would have made their hearing
> better? My impression was that they did not listen to us, that the
> reaction was hard and immediate created by the tension and enormous
> pressure a democratically elected government has to face - but
> nevertheless narrow-minded and dogmatic . I'm not going to accept
> that dinosaurs that I thought were crushed under the falling stone
> of the Berlin Wall are having a revival and that they make the WSF
> their playground. And I'm never going to accept that my generation
> of warriors for a better world will have to choose between being in
> favour or against so called progressive states. That is an old
> history. I want to create new histories, tell my children other
> stories, other ways, other fora.



On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Rosa wrote:

> Saludos to all members of the new-IMC list:
> 
>  

>  We from IMC-Brazil have been recently contacted by the people
> involved in the IMC-Venezuela project, who were very worried about
> the crisis in their country. They asked us what we could do to help
> them in the new-IMC process. Since the regular process must be
> followed step by step, we had the idea to open a subsite in the
> IMC-Brazil page for the Venezuelans, who would have the status of an
> IMC-Brazil collective. The regular affiliation process to Indymedia
> will go on, and when IMC-Venezuela is approved by new-IMC it will
> succeed the Venezuela collective associated with IMC-Brazil. The
> main reasons for the immediate creation of a Venezuela webpage
> within IMC-Brazil are:

>  - Imminent risk of a Pinochet-style coup d'état that would certainly
> restrict freedom of information in Venezuela.

>  - Media war waged by all the main TV networks, radios and newspapers
> against the constitutional and regularly elected government, with a
> 24 hours/day hate campaign targeting the Venezuelan president.

> - Growing interest by all IMCs around the world, and the public in
> general, in Venezuelan affairs. One example: the IMC-DC feature
> about the crisis in Venezuela got a record amount of comments. The
> Venezuelan people have also a growing interest in Indymedia, for
> many of them are sending and receiving independent information about
> their country from IMC Brazil and other IMCs.

 
>  Please understand that this is an urgent and atypical
> situation. People are already being killed, the country risks to
> sink into civil war and turmoil. The people that will run the
> Venezuela subpage are the same that are already trying to create an
> IMC-Venezuela in the IMC-Venezuela list, and they complied with the
> principles of Indymedia and IMC-Brazil in a written statement. They
> will be supervised and oriented by the Brazilians. Dri, who was
> dealing with the Venezuela IMC application, said this provisional
> and urgent IMC was ok. So, we would like to know if there is any
> objection to the creation of this subpage.