[New-imc] Re: [Imc] 6 new imc US orphans (fwd)

[Forrest English]

> <crosspost new-imc, imc at truffula.net>
> 
> **new-imc**
> 
> jay, someone else from the US region,
>     There are at least 6 US orphan new IMCs. Rogue looks
> organised, but someone who knows local groups and the situation
> (e.g. is it reasonable to ask them to do more outreach to
> indigeneous groups, people of colour, feminist groups,
> LGBT groups, workers' rights groups?) really ought to handle
> this.  (2nd qn: their networking with IMC Portland - given
> the IMC Portland problems, again it makes more sense that someone
> local handles it.)
> 
> And a 3rd qn: they don't seem to have a general decision-making
> procedure, though they do have a procedure for deciding on
> editorial questions, and they don't seem to be aware that
> consensus is a lot more than just "trying to achieve consensus".

This has been discussed, the whole group understands that it's a lot
more than "uh, lets try for consensus", we understand this to mean
really really try.   We agreed at the last meeting to use the consensus,
and failing that 2/3 vote to make decisions.   
 
> **IMC Rogue**
> 
> hi, i'm a new-imc volunteer and hope that someone who lives reasonably
> near you (e.g. in the US/Canada/Mexico) can help talk you through the
> new-imc process.
> 
> You look well organised, at least electronically, and are into good
> communication :). But my questions above are probably not written very
> clearly or sensitively and hopefully someone else more local from
> new-imc will contact you soon. For more on consensus i suggest:

I feel we understand these basic ideas, but someone of course may
disagree here.

> BTW, one suggestion which i think i *can* ask you directly:
> 
> It would be great if you could start a regional mailing list with IMCs
> that are geographically close to you. How you define the region is up
> to you and your neighbouring IMCs, and of course it would only make
> sense if it is used. But it could help a lot in making global (10Mm)
> communications easier if local US (1Mm) issues and coordination and
> solidarity could be separated from global coordination.

The nearest imc's are 300 miles away to the north and to the south (pdx
and sf).   I'd be more than happy to setup such a list, but I feel that
should happen after we are an IMC so we avoid lots of communication
about things that don't happen. 

> 
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, boud wrote:
> 
> > In any case, here are the five recent US applications AFAIR, anyone
> > from USA or elsewhere is welcome to help - hints for new-imc
> > volunteers are here:
> >
> > http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowHelpUs
> >
> 
> The 6 US orphans:
> 
> (1) IMC Ashland/Rogue Valley/Klamath-Siskiyou
> (not yet through step 3, but Memb Crit sent)
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2003-February/003388.html
> 
> * mission statement + editorial policy
> http://indymedia.truffula.net/draft_policy_v2.html

This is outdated, it should be 
http://indymedia.truffula.net/draft_policy_v3.html

> 
> * Their mailing list is here:
> http://truffula.net/mailman/listinfo/imc
> 
> * Their membership criteria are here:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2003-February/003434.html
> 
> * They haven't yet (step 3) filled out the form at
> http://newimc.indymedia.org to get their contact data base password
> and give us other info

We did fill that out, in fact before we addressed the individual points
for membership last night.  You can find the e-mail from that form in
process.

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-February/004636.html

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