[IMC-Process] Re: [New-imc] Re: PROPOSAL chuck on approval list DEADLINE Wed 8 Jan 2003 17:00 GMT

[changsing]

> The latest version of the proposal is here:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2003-January/004420.html

yeah! how bright!
banning someone for proposing an issue-based imc!
you must be kidding, i can't really believe you're being serious with 
this proposal.
just in case you are, i disagree.
and if that's not enough to make you change your mind, i block your 
proposal, for the following reasons:
- andy rice has been trying to sabotage and disrupt the imc network for 
the last months, and even if both me and a few other people have tried 
to raise this issue more than once, we couldn't come up with a solution 
(banning him).
- chuck made a proposal, and was then attacked by andy rice. andy rice 
was the one starting the flame.
- i didn't know we had a policy stating that people who refuse to 
apologise are to be banned
- i don't really think that "abusive language" is a consistent argument 
to ban someone. you can be very abusive even without using foul words.
- three of the four reasons you want to ban chuck for sound nothing more 
than ridiculous to me.
"he has not yet started constructive (or any) discussion on the list
which is most closely related to his request": does this mean that from 
now on people have to ask you which one is the most appropriate list to 
make proposals? and anyway, if someone starts a discussion on the wrong 
list (which happens daily, i'd say), we ban him?
"he has not yet created a mailing list on his requested theme": this il 
self-explanatory in its ridiculousness
"although interested in homelessness, he has trivialised the
possibility of networking with a major grassroots network of
homeless people in the world's largest democracy who use direct
action in the best Gandhian tradition": this means that you're banning 
him because he has a different point of view on this major grassroots 
network? fancy.

there are so many things we should be doing, that i don't really 
understand why you waste your time with such harmful and pointless 
proposals. please, get serious.
changsing