[New-imc] Re: PROPOSAL chuck on approval listDEADLINE Wed 8 Jan 2003 17:00 GMT

[boud]

hi andy,

On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Media Collective wrote:

> I have been reluctant to weigh in on this, because I don't really
> feel like I should apologize, either.

i am sad to hear that, and feel that in that case, people on new-imc
are likely to ignore any further comments by you regarding chuck,
green chaoticists, etc. Don't be surprised if people fail to 
respond to you.

> I call for consensus, or a vote on this matter, to put the blame for
> this flame war where it belongs, on the chaos freaks, who hate
> democracy, and who hate me for advocating democracy.

Noone wishes to play "the blame game" (at least on new-imc; i cannot
make any fair judgment on opinion on imc-process, though i would be
surprised if people there wished to make a judgment of blame), and
even a limited form of "filtering for approval" of someone's emails
was clearly considered unacceptable on new-imc (unless voluntary by
non-subscription). So there is no point trying to start debate on 
this.

Facilitators and others on *imc-process* will have to decide for
themselves how to deal with this personal conflict between you and
chuck. 

(imc-process people: please avoid confusing new-imc and imc-process -
i see no need for having identical facilitating methods on the two
lists. The proposal for limiting filtering of chuck was a proposal *on
new-imc*, and has been overwhelmingly blocked *on new-imc*. i do *not*
claim to understand nor participate regularly in imc-process, and i
cannot contribute to facilitation there.)

boud