[New-imc] Re: [imc-pilipinas] Draft Principles of Unity of IMC-Pilipinas

[edwin licaros]

Hi!
 
At last there's some *discussion* on the list! Methinks that's a positive development.
 
I don't think both proposed principles of unity are contradictory and probably differences can be resolved through discussion. A strength of Tonyo's version is that it contextualizes IMC in the long history of struggle in the Philipines. And Tonyo definitely has a point about the incendiary language. Anyone who has monitored this list or went through the archives can easily acknowledge that. Does he really have to dig up the URLs for you?
 
Boud, your queries into Bayan's organizational structure are not exactly relevant. Tonyo is participating as an individual. The fact that he's with Bayan shows his track record as an activist. Definitely he would be able to bring in tons of interesting content and expertise and encourage many activists to participate. 
 
So let's continue the discussion first before we take a decision. Separate, regional IMCs are an option of course. But maybe cooperation is possible. There hasn't been any attempt yet. It all depends on respect and I haven't seen much of it on this list.
 
E

boud <boud1 at wp.pl> wrote:
hi shayne,

(1) If you compare the document posted by tonyo (below) with the 

http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/PrinciplesOfUnity

you'll see that the main differences are that all the
anti-authoritarian, anti-hierarchical words have been removed. Maybe the
network would accept this (though i would be surprised), maybe not.

(2) tonyo's document was posted to new-imc despite the fact that it's
in competition with the PofU of the Quezon City (Manila) group on

http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcPilipinas 

AFAIK, there was no discussion about it on the imc-pilipinas list by tonyo
to attempt to find consensus before sending it to new-imc. 

On the other hand, the Quezon City (Manila) group have chosen to resolve the
general conflict/lack of communication between them and tonyo by
applying as IMC Manila rather than IMC Pilipinas. IMHO, this is constructive
and reflects the reality of the group.

IMHO, there is not yet any clear discussion by tonyo about the
hierarchical aspects of his group (Bayan) and about how to
constructively deal with the risks of hierarchy.

solidarity
boud


On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Shayne ONeill wrote:

> 
> Hey Philipines!
> 
> Sounds like is cranking up there in philipines.
> 
> Do you think you could itemise for us what documentation/policies etc are
> ready, and see how far we are from proposing philipines to go thru the 3
> day new-imc 7 day imc-process loop.
> 
> Its all looking good to me :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Shayne.
> 
> --
> Shayne O'Neill
> http://perth.indymedia.org
> Its hidden somewhere.
> 
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, tonyo cruz wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > Here is a draft being discussed offline and online. Some of these are
> > culled from Principles of Unity of other IMCs as well as from the draft
> > that was previously posted.
> >
> > For our collective consideration.
> >
> > STR,
> > Tonyo
> >
> >
> >
> > Proposed Principles of Unity of IMC-Pilipinas
> >
> > 1. IMC-Pilipinas aims to establish and maintain a non-profit,
> > non-corporate, pro-people Independent Media Center for the Philippines that
> > will uphold and advance the struggle against oppression and exploitation
> > (especially by forces of imperialist globalization and war), a fight shared
> > by the Filipino and the world’s peoples.
> >
> > 2. IMC-Pilipinas draws special inspiration from the long and continuing
> > history of anti-colonial and anti-imperialist struggle of the Filipino
> > people and from the distinct role of patriotic and democratic
> > propagandists, writers, journalists and netizens in social change.
> >
> > 3. IMC-Pilipinas upholds the rights to free speech, free expression and
> > free flow of or access to information.
> >
> > 4. IMC-Pilipinas shall provide an information infrastructure for people and
> > views that are deprived of access to the airwaves, tools and resources of
> > corporate media. This includes text, audio, video, photography, internet
> > distribution and any other communication medium.
> >
> > 5. IMC-Pilipinas respects the right to privacy of persons and parties who
> > avail of its open web-based publishing medium.
> >
> > 6. IMC-Pilipinas shall be committed to the use of free source code,
> > whenever possible, in order to develop the digital infrastructure, and to
> > increase the independence of the network by not relying on the proprietary
> > software.
> >
> > 7. IMC-Pilipinas shall promote collective work the sharing of resources
> > including knowledge, skills and equipment.
> >
> > 8. IMC-Pilipinas shall practice mutual respect, mutual benefit, consensus,
> > consultation, and the independence and initiative of all persons and
> > parties interested in joining or supporting it. No person or party or
> > political belief shall arbitrarily impose its will on any or all the others.
> >
> > 9. IMC-Pilipinas shall – by way of consensus and consultation – choose a
> > spokesperson who can and would represent it in global decision-making
> > processes of Indymedia.
> >
> > 10. IMC-Pilipinas shall be committed to the principle of human equality,
> > and shall not descriminate, including discrimination based upon race,
> > region, gender, age, class or sexual orientation. As such, it shall not act
> > in a manner that endangers, intimidates, or physically harms any member of
> > the group, including by sexual harassment or acts of violence. It shall
> > strive to act in a respectful manner to its members as well as the public.
> >
> _______________________________________________
> New-imc mailing list. Lista de correo New-imc
> New-imc at lists.indymedia.org
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/new-imc
> 

_______________________________________________
imc-pilipinas mailing list
imc-pilipinas at lists.indymedia.org
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-pilipinas


---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/attachments/20030725/ff9974dc/attachment.html