[imc-tennessee] Re: [New-imc] network membership application for TN IMC

[Shayne O'Neill]

Is this argument still going. or am I getting late emails? If its still
going.... booorrrrriiiinnnnnggggg!

Shayne.

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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 rwyoung at chattanooga.net wrote:

> Consensus is a process. Not a result.
> However if no one ever dissagrees I have to wonder how honest the process
> truely is. Sometime you have to stick to you guns to get something aired
> out.
>
>
>
> > Quoting Arc <arc at indymedia.org>:
> >
> >> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:37:01AM -0500, Ryan Smith wrote:
> >> > g. Adopt a decision-making policy that is in alignment
> >> > with consensus principles which include open,
> >> > transparent and egalitarian processes,
> >> > Regarding consensus, we have adopted the principles of
> >> > the peace coalition.  In all efforts we strive for
> >> > consensus as the modus operandi of the TN IMC.  When
> >> > consensus is not possible we will make decisions by
> >> > 3/4 majority vote.
> >>
> >> 3/4 majority fallback vote is not consensus.
> >>
> >> The principals of consensus, which are important because they create a
> >> positive atmosphere of social change and equal participation, rely on
> >> the individual's ability to speak his or her own truth.  The power of
> >> blocking, even if it is never used, must be present to ensure that no
> >> voice is ignored.
> >
> > I disagree
> >
> > What is most important to be present, is not the 'block', but trust and
> > mutual respect for individual and group autonomy.
> >
> > The very idea of a block is questionable in this sort of situation with
> > a new imc for example. No individual or group should submit to skewed
> > power dynamics or abusive behavior based on ideology, consensus or
> > otherwise.
> >
> > The purpose of the new imc process, is to assist new imc's to get off to
> > a good start and to share resources, learned lessons and experience with
> > them, not to stand above passing judgement. We are affiliated by mutual
> > choice and respect. There is no global entity as such that sits above a
> > local imc and can/should wield power over. Portland does not recognize
> > any such
> > hierarchical structure. All interactions are horizontal and voluntary
> > and on that basis, desireable.
> >
> > deva
> > pdx imc
> >
> >
> >
> >
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