[New-imc] [indymedia.org #1351] Mexico.indymedia what gives?

[boud]

[es] Apesadumbrado, no confío en el babelfish para traducir algo más
de largo que apenas algunas oraciones...

[en]
hi, i'm forwarding this to imc-latina. 

This is just the opinion of one volunteer from new-imc. It is 
not a formally consensed on opinion of the new-imc working group,
though i believe it does express past consensus on similar issues.

justin: i suggest you follow this up at (imc-latina at lists.indymedia.org) .

Please read carefully through:
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcResolve

To me, it looks like you are correct that:
(1) mexico.indymedia.org has not published central column 
features since Sep 2002
(2) There has been no discussion on 
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-mexico/
for 12 months

IMHO, probably the first thing is to try to contact the present
group managing the site - with copies to a publicly archived list.
Why not use imc-mexico?

**If there is no response**

 after a reasonable delay, or if it is clear that only one person is
running the site, then you follow "the Prague precedent":

- use the imc-mexico mailing list to start organising a collective,
and show that you've at least got some chance of creating a real 
collective

- non-controversial: ask for a few people from the new group to
become additional imc-mexico mailing list administrators

- more sensitive: fill out the form at the bottom of 
http://newimc.indymedia.org , mentioning that this is a new collective,
and showing that there is local consensus to change the status from
'accepted' to 'requested'.
- Then, ask for the site password to be transferred to
two or three people in the new group - you then use your password
to the contact datebase
http://www.indymedia.org/contact 
to shift mexico from "accepted" status to "requested" status - and
the new collective goes through the full new IMC process:

http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo

So although the website would function, it would remain off the left-hand
column until the new collective has got through the organising process.


**If there *is* a response** 

but no local consensus, then the network is unlikely to act. The
geographically closer IMCs (Chiapas, Sonora, Tijuana, ...?) who can
better judge or apply conflict resolution techniques would have to
find a consensus solution aomng local activists. Maybe create a list

imc-latina-resolucion

and carefully read and learn from
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcResolve

solidarity
boud


On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Tremblay wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> The following was sent to the Indymedia help desk. This person can be reached at: jrohde at prescott.edu
> 
> Tremblay
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Justin via RT <help at indymedia.org> -----
> Mon Feb 24 12:33:13 2003: Request 1351 was acted upon.
> From: jrohde at prescott.edu
> Name: Justin
> 
> Message: I have talked to many folks in Latin America who say one man is controling mexico.indymedia and that there is no collective able to work because of this. The website has not been updated since sept. 2002. Movements in Mexico are exploding and there are so many people who want to use and could use this site, especially before the WTO meetings this fall.
> 
> What can we do? I work with arizona.indymedia.org and we have contacts with the soon to be sonora.indymedia and tijuana.indymedia.org, as well as contacts in Mexico City though not with indymedia. I feel strongly that mexico indymedia must be turned over to a collective soon, but do not know how a process like this works within the indymedia structure. You all rock!
> 
> Additional Comments: Please submit to aplicable listserves, thank you
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