[imc-pal-contact] Re[2]: [New-imc] Jerusalem

Sun May 25 08:36:27 PDT 2003

Hey all : 
for the problem that we faced still do not has any solve , rayan contact us ,but still work on the site as i guess <

Ana Valdés <agora at algonet.se> wrote:
Sorry friends to intervene in this discussion! I am a
Swedish/Latinamerican journalist and my only relation with IMC Jerusalem
was as publisher of some material I wrote about my visit to Jenin last
year, when the camp was barely recovering from the bombings and from the
massacres. But I offered my help to Bilal and to others, to try to solve
the inmediate problem. For us who are "Palestine activists" the access to
reliable and quick news is crucial, I manage one blog about Gaza and is
working on other site about the Apartheid Wall, which is going to be
launched in one week.
My question to all is: how can we garantee a reliable technical support to
Bilal and to the others from the IMC Jerusalem? I remember a letter from
Ryan dated some weeks ago, where he asked Bilal if the old codes were
still working. I don't know if Bilal and Ryan come in contact.
I can offer a server in Iceland, who is owned by a comrade, he host our
site http://this.is/Jenin, for free.
If IMC Palestine need a mirror we can provide it. In the meanwhile look at
my blog about Gaza and maybe the idea should be to use a blog Palestine,
if the IMC code is too difficult to use for untrained people.
Sorry if I babble, but I am realy eager to provide and to share correct
and fast Palestine news.
Ana

Mike R wrote:

> Hi Petros,
>
> So IMC-Palestine's problem is technical? We have had similar problems
> with our code, though I believe Jerusalem uses sf-active & we have our
> own slash based code (Madrid is the only other IMC using our code).
>
> That said, I agree with Petros that there is a problem with IMCs set
> up from outside, especially with what happened in Prague (though it is
> a local collective now) and what is happening with Baghdad. With
> Jerusalem, I was a little more active on New-IMC then so I do remember
> Bilal working closely with some north americans, but mainly with local
> groups and also having discussions with IMC-Israel's collective.
>
> Tech is a problem in all countries, as we have seen with Switzerland's
> need to have hosting from outside the country. Tech is not so much an
> issue of local outreach and organizing. I am not on any tech lists,
> so I do not know the global process for getting things fixed. With an
> all volunteer group, it does take time. We may need to have rotating
> sort of "on call" tech volunteers to handle issues such as the
> publishing code breaking in not only their local IMC, but for any IMC
> that uses their code. Again, I'm not in the tech collective, so this
> may have already been discussed globally. I know we have been
> discussing it in Philadelphia for resolving issues here.
>
> - Miker at phillyimc.org
>
> Thursday, May 22, 2003, 10:07:55 AM, Petros said:
>
> >> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003
> >> From: Mike R 
> >> Subject: [New-imc] Jerusalem
> >>
> >> Hey new-imc,
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what has been happening with the Palestine IMC?
> >> There have been no new posts or features since February. Is
> >> everything ok with them?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike
> >> ---------------
>
> PE> Hi Mike,
>
> PE> I'll forward your letter to some of our contacts in
> PE> Palestine and the broader community.
>
> PE> This is a recurring problem, and not just with
> PE> imc-Jerusalem. If you follow the discussions going on
> PE> within and around the new-imc working group, you'll see
> PE> that it keeps being reproduced by our American and
> PE> European imc colleagues all over the world, who keep
> PE> insisting to set up imc "sites" without building a
> PE> political relationship with collectively oriented
> PE> people - reliable radical activists - in each
> PE> community.
>
> PE> I fear that now this problem is being reproduced in the
> PE> case of imc-Baghdad. There is a lot of interest to
> PE> generate (and to spend) funds, and to create accees to
> PE> (mostly irrelevant) technology, alongside with a
> PE> fantastic reluctance to talk politics among the
> PE> European and American imc- colleagues who are involved
> PE> in that project. And we still have not heard a single
> PE> word from any Iraqi voices on the politics of that
> PE> project. The project does not even take a solid stance
> PE> against the US/UK invasion and occupation of Iraq!
>
> PE> I'm including a copy of this letter to 2 imc groups in
> PE> our Middle East region which include individuals who
> PE> are active on the Palestine issues locally (and to
> PE> imc-baghdad).
> PE> And I'm also re-printing below a plea for techical help
> PE> from Bilal, which seems to have been ignored for quite
> PE> a while.
>
> PE> Access to the internet is not very reliable in
> PE> Palestine due to the Israeli military operations and
> PE> collective punishment policies, so we'll have to be
> PE> somewhat patient in waiting for some responses.
>
> PE> Petros
> PE> -----------------
>
> PE> [Imc-pal-volunteers] Re: [imc-pal-contact]
> PE> URGENT ;TO whom it my concern : we
> PE> cant publish , access or updating the site
>
> PE> Bilal Salameh kidar194 at yahoo.com
> PE> Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
> PE> Thanks Ana about ur letter : I dont think that you can
> PE> help , if yes , i will tell you what the problem that
> PE> we face since one and half month , we cant update the
> PE> site , maybe there is something is wrong that happend
> PE> we dont know it , i thing the only one who can help is
> PE> rayan form sanfrancesco , or he has the answear , i
> PE> dont know can u tray to publish in our site to see the
> PE> problem only in palestine or not , and if u can contact
> PE> with rayan please do thanks againfreedom
>
> PE> Ana Valdés wrote:What do you need as
> PE> help?
> PE> Ana, phisically in Sweden but in mind and in heart
> PE> always in Palestine
>
> PE> Bilal Salameh wrote:
>
> >> hey to all , and specially to ryan :TO whom it my concern : we cant
> >> publish , access or updating the site since one and half month, any
> >> person can helpthanks
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Bilal Salameh :"imc-palestine" ;http//www.jerusalem.indymedia.org
> >>
> >> Email : bilal at indymedia.org
> >>
> >> Cell phone : 00 972 (0)52 -814-992
> >>
> >> Palestine ; Bethlehem - Deheishah Refugee Camp
>
> --
> Mike
> mailto:micro.zen at verizon.net
>
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