[New-imc] Re: Re: [Imc-vlaanderen] IMC Belgium and proposed new IMC Vlaanderen

[maarten.van.hove at pandora.be]

Red Kitten

Personally I don't give a rat's ass about the name. If it was up to me I would put my efforts into a media project where there wouln't be 90% of the energy going into power play. But this would mean a huge feeling of pain for not having been able to do it in a magnificent network like Indymedia. Because I have no choice but to work in Belgium, and here the infighting seems to come with the name. This is a shame for the network as a whole, and it doesn't show a lot of respect for the movement and the philosophy of alternative media.

There is not a single person in the world who can tell me if I can make media or not. It is even a democratic right in every book of law. It is just a matter of where this is done and how. The philosophy of IMC is sound, anybody anywhere can pick it up and use it like it is meant to be used. I do not need permission to make people to write about the things that concern them. 

You can say and think what you want about Indymedia Vlaanderen or pingpong or whatever. It doesn't touch me anymore. Just stop playing your little games with me. Suppose that Global would say that IMC Flanders should not be? I would just write to Z-net or whatever, or gather some likeminded people and try working together in a positive atmosphere whatever the name. It would mean about the same thing, but without all the negative vibes and infighting.

Perhaps that would be better. You just have to make up your mind, make a choice. Just this: when you say I cannot work in Indymedia, you better shut up about outreach or trying to get more people to join, because it would only mean a gross lie. I have no doubt that the new imc people can see this.

Maarten, independent writer whatever the name.





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 "Temporary list to discuss the proposed new imc: IMC Vlaanderen" <imc-vlaanderen at lists.indymedia.org> wrote:
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>Le jeudi, 25 sep 2003, à 10:42 Europe/Brussels, 
>maarten.van.hove at pandora.be a écrit :
>> I really do not understand why her enthousiasm is dropping. We have 
>> held three open meetings until today and at the moment the group 
>> dynamics are improving. There are plans for some features and a lot of 
>
>> outreach effort.
>
>....
>
>>  This is not the official launch of our collective, but it is the 
>> first time we walk out to write articles and do outreach in an 
>> organized way.
>
>What bothers me in all this:
>since IMC-vl isn't part yet of the Indymedia network, it shouldn't use 
>
>the name 'Indymedia' until then.
>
>It wouldn't be honnest and it would raise confusion for users and 
>audience.
>=> so i wonder how the member of the 'pingpong' collectif will make 
>outreach and work.
>
>Using the URL 'www.indymedia-vlaanderen.org' seems to me like a way to 
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>bypass the decision of the international networks.
>I really think IMC-vl collective should be patient and wait for 
>approval or reject from the international networks and avoid to use the 
>
>name 'indymedia' until then.
>
>Friendly
>
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