[New-imc] about indymedia worcester (usa) [Fwd: Moving ahead, reply to Gaba's questions]

Tue Apr 13 07:48:32 PDT 2004

-----Mensaje reenviado-----
From: Matt <teo at riseup.net>
To: gaba at indymedia.org
Cc: imc-worcester at lists.indymedia.org
Subject: Moving ahead, reply to Gaba's questions
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 11:06:59 -0400

hola gaba,
Gracias por la ayuda en este proceso.  Voy a responder en inglÃ©s a tus
preguntas para que entiendan tod at s.

>> In your collective there are people that speaks spanish and in the city
>> there is a large spanish community so i think that it would be helpfull
>> for the open of the collective to write your editorial policy and
>> mission statement in spanish (Usa is in this moment not just an english
>> country).

We are working on this, Gerardo (with help) has translated the mission
statement, and he's (with help) working on the Editorial Policy.

>> About the editorial policy i have a question: can you explain what are
>> the "postings that compromise the availability and usefulness". This is
>> very wide, perhaps you can tell what is usefull for the independent
>> media that you are trying to do.

This is general language explaining why we are making such a policy.  It
has no policy implications until we specify later in the editorial policy
what constitutes "unuseful".  basically we'll make it as useful and
available to people as possible by deleting duplicate posts, etc.

>> I dont understand the thing about "direct threats". It should be cause i
>> dont speak fluently english...

"Direct threats" are when someone uses language that could threaten
(amenazar) the physical safety of someone and create an unsafe climate on
the site.  The policy says how we hide them.

>> About active editors: In Indymedia Uruguay happens that everybody can be
>> an active editor (go to imc meetings and read the website frecuently)
>> and once you are an editor then you only decline this role if you are
>> not more doing work with indymedia (or if you personally dont want to be
>> an editor anymore). I think (is only my opinion) this is ok, not having
>> a limit of persons in the group. So i dont understand why you write:
>> "It's not good for any one person to be an active editor for too long,
>> and it's the editorial collective's responsibility to make sure this
>> doesn't happen." . Why is not good?

We discussed this suggestion, and we think it's a really good one.  But as
you know, IMC Worcester has been up and down in terms of participation.
Right now there are only a few of us meeting regularly, and we think that
once we have the site going, many people who have been involved or have
expressed interest in the past will get back involved.  We think that will
be a better time to re-discuss the editorial policy.  We did a lot of
research last fall about what Editorial policy would be good, and found
that this one of rotating active (or "empowered") editors was one that
works well for a lot of collectives.  We think it should be rotating so a
few people aren't taking on all the responsibility for too long and so new
editors will be empowered.  But we may see that the open editor policy
would work better like it does in Uruguay. We'll see and discuss with a
larger group when it's functioning.

>> An important thing that you need to read, discuss and reply are the
>> PRINCIPLES OF UNITY
>> (http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2001-May/000159.html)
>> and IMC MEMBERSHIP CRITERIA
>> (http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2001-May/000155.html)

We have already read, discussed, and consensed on these Principles of Unity
and Membership Criteria (this should have been sent to global already).  Do
we need to do anything else?

>> In this last months some women in indymedia (through
>> imc-women at indymedia.org) proposed some questions to the new imcs. Is not
>> a requeriment to the creation of the imc but would be helpfull to talk
>> about this issue and answer the question. The proposal is in:
>> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcWomynProposal

We are discussing this at our next meeting, and hopefully that discussion
will continue through the re-recruitment process.

We have a test site that was hosted on the WMass IMC server for while, I'll
contact Jeremy to see if we can get that back, maybe you could help us from
there.

Thanks for your help,
Matt Feinstein
IMC Worcester
ps.  hey everybody, did I miss anything?

>gaba wrote:
>
>> [espaniol mas abajo]
>>
>> Hello, Im sorry that i didnt reply before when Gerardo send me your
>> documents. Now im more stable and i will try to follow the process of
>> the creation of worcester imc.
>> In your collective there are people that speaks spanish and in the city
>> there is a large spanish community so i think that it would be helpfull
>> for the open of the collective to write your editorial policy and
>> mission statement in spanish (Usa is in this moment not just an english
>> country).
>>
>> About the editorial policy i have a question: can you explain what are
>> the "postings that compromise the availability and usefulness". This is
>> very wide, perhaps you can tell what is usefull for the independent
>> media that you are trying to do.
>> I dont understand the thing about "direct threats". It should be cause i
>> dont speak fluently english...
>> About active editors: In Indymedia Uruguay happens that everybody can be
>> an active editor (go to imc meetings and read the website frecuently)
>> and once you are an editor then you only decline this role if you are
>> not more doing work with indymedia (or if you personally dont want to be
>> an editor anymore). I think (is only my opinion) this is ok, not having
>> a limit of persons in the group. So i dont understand why you write:
>> "It's not good for any one person to be an active editor for too long,
>> and it's the editorial collective's responsibility to make sure this
>> doesn't happen." . Why is not good?
>> I see very good the idea of write clearly the procedure of resolving
>> problems requiring inmediate action.
>>
>> An important thing that you need to read, discuss and reply are the
>> PRINCIPLES OF UNITY
>> (http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2001-May/000159.html)
>> and IMC MEMBERSHIP CRITERIA
>> (http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2001-May/000155.html)
>>
>> In this last months some women in indymedia (through
>> imc-women at indymedia.org) proposed some questions to the new imcs. Is not
>> a requeriment to the creation of the imc but would be helpfull to talk
>> about this issue and answer the question. The proposal is in:
>> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcWomynProposal
>>
>> Well, here are all the things i have from you guys, so tell me if there
>> is something wrong or if you want to add something. After your reply i
>> will send this things to the new-imc collective making a deadline for
>> the aprobation.: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcWorcester
>>
>> Other thing to know about: global indymedia overview
>> (http://global.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=673).
>>
>> Im more stable and online now so i will try to help you to make the
>> things quickly.
>>
>> salut,
>> gaba
>>
>> [espaniol]
>>
>> Hola, Disculpas por no haber respondido antes cuando Gerardo me envio
>> los documentos. Ahora estoy mas estable e intentare seguir el proceso de
>> creacion de worcester imc.
>> En vuestro colectivo hay gente que habla castellano y en la ciudad hay
>> una comunidad fuerte de hispanos asi que pienso que seria bueno para la
>> apertura de el colectivo escribir vuestra politica editorial y objetivos
>> en castellanos (Usa no es mas un pais de solo habla inglesa).
>>
>> Sobre la politica editorial tengo una pregunta: pueden explicar que son
>> los "postings that compromise the availability and usefulness". Esto es
>> muy amplio, tal vez pueden decir que es util para los medios
>> independientes que estan intentando hacer.
>> No entiendo que es "direct threats". Seguramente sea porque no manejo
>> bien el ingles...
>> Sobre editores activos: Les cuento que en Indymedia Uruguay (es donde
>> tengo experiencia de indymedia) pasa que cada uno puede ser un editor
>> activo (que concurra frecuentemente a las reuniones y tenga acceso al
>> sitio web) y una vez que tu sos editor entonces podes solo dejarlo de
>> serlo si no estas haciendo mas trabajo de indymedia o si personalmente
>> queres dejar de ser editor. Pienso (solo mi opinion) que esto esta bien,
>> no tener un limite de personas en el grupo. Asi que no entiendo porque
>> escriben: "It's not good for any one person to be an active editor for
>> too long, and it's the editorial collective's responsibility to make
>> sure this doesn't happen." . Porque no es bueno?
>> Pienso que esta barbara la idea de escribir claramente el procedimiento
>> de resolver problemas que requieran inmediata accion.
>>
>> Alo importante que necesitan leer, discutir y contestarnos son los
>> principios de unidad
>> (http://global.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=1024&group=webcast)
>> y criterios de
>>
>>participacion(http://global.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=1023&group=web
>>cast).
>> Es muy importante que esten de acuerdo/desacuerdo, cuestionen o no
>> estos principios.
>>
>> En estos ultimos meses algunas mujeres de indymedia (mediante la lista
>> imc-women at indymedia.org) propuesieron algunas preguntas para los nuevos
>> imcs. No es un requisito para la creacion de el imc pero seria de ayuda
>> hablar sobre estos temas y contestar las preguntas. La propuesta esta en
>> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcWomynEs
>>
>> Bueno, aqui estan todas las cosas que tengo de ustedes, asi que diganme
>> si hay algo mal o si quieren agregar algo. Cuando me contesten esto
>> entonces envio un mail al colectivo new-imc poniendo una fecha para la
>> aprobacion.: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcWorcester
>>
>> salut,
>> gaba
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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