[New-imc] IMC BELGRADE - new imc internal deadline - june 26th 2003

[Shayne O'Neill]

FUN-DA-MENTAL! Just like I like my music! Wheeeeee!

(keep the personal assessments of other indienistas off lists please
folks, we are all diferent, but don't mean yer not all beautiful ;) ;)

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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Blicero wrote:

> summary : personal explanation of the two questions
>
> > First off it seems like a good imc application. Blicero and the other
> > italian indymedia activists who you seem to be working with have a good
> > grasp about what is indymedia and media activism in general, even if in
> > my opinion they tend towards fundamentalism.
> >
>
> oh my god
> good to know
> fundamentalism towards what ?
> bah
>
>
> > > Indymedia is an Internet news service where political parties and
> > > other hierarchically structured organisations will not be able to
> > > pursue their interests.
> >
> > Does that mean that any posts by people who are from, involved with, or
> > advocate political parties or hierarchically structured organizations
> > will have their posts removed?
> >
> > The Brazil imc has an editorial policy of removing posts which are
> > explictly party propaganda. They have a distinction between covering,
> > and even posting positive articles about parties and what they call
> > propaganda. The propaganda is official publications of the party. They
> > allow publications from NGO's which, almost all, are by definition,
> > hierarchically structured organizations.
> >
>
> in italy we have the same policy
> explicit propaganda is off, opinions and discussions are ok
> i suppose it is the same here
> hope the imc will have the time and access to answer quickly clarifing
>
>
> > My point is, i've seen other places, such as indymedia peru before it's
> > recent restructuring, where the imc so strictly tied self to anarchist
> > movements that they didn't bother to mention or do any coverage of
> > national wide general strikes or other major actions because they were
> > not 'anarchist' things.
> >
>
> well
> indymedia is not a newspaper
> we are not professional journalists who need to cover everything
> we cover what we participate to and what we are interested into and hope other
> people involved in indy cover the rest following their own interest and affinity
>
>
> > I also am a little concerned about the definition of indymedia as an
> > internet news service, rather than a network of media activist networks
> > and collectives who use an open publishing website as one of many
> > tools, mediums, and tactics for building a media revolution. But that's
> > a secondary issue because we are talking about the editorial policy of
> > the website here.
> >
>
> i agree
> but i also think groups need to make experience to handle the subtleties of the
> indymedia project
>
> > > The members of the initial collective of IMC Belgrade come from
> > > various groups and backgrounds, which mean that we have been a diverse
> > > group that welcomes new activists as equals. The IMC Belgrade
> > > collective regularly holds open meetings in order to coordinate
> > > activities. The meetings are open to all people who comply with the
> > > principles of IMC collective.
> >
> > Could you be a little more specific about what the background of the
> > participants are? Perhaps talk about your relationship with other media
> > activists. There's the infamous B92, who i assume you don't work with,
> > but who are you? You don't have to name specific groups if you don't
> > feel comfortable for security reasons. But are most of you from a
> > music/alternative culture background, ecological groups, the
> > pro-democracy student movement, anarcho-communist cadres, trotskist
> > parties, professional journalists, etc?
> >
>
>
> i mean i never saw such a question posed in such a qeustioning way to a new imc
> but i supposed that evan personal assumption about my "fundamentalism" affects
> that
>
> the people i know from belgrade imc present group work with anarchist and
> libertarian collectives, fanzines, and sites in serbia as well as zmag and some
> other magazines (some of them, or people who are supporting the birth of
> belgrade imc)
> hope they will have time to answer directly, but i have to say
> they have done a great job in getting the group together and working on the site
> despite access problems
> and they are doing a good job throughout the extreme difficult balnaces of the
> post-communist eastern europe, where it is very difficult to do politics in a
> independent way
>
> in any case i see this two questions as curiosity more than as potential block
> to the application, right ?
> just to keep track of the situation
>
> solidarity
> ciao
> blicero
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