[New-imc] RE: imc Egypt

[moho jay]

i fully understand that indymedia is not a website, or to rephrase what you 
said i fully understand that indy media is not just a website. im sry if i 
came across at first as if i wanted to take on everything myself but i 
guarentee you that i now have more than 5 people actively involved in 
organizing the meeting, with an expected show up so far of about 20-30 
people the list of people attending is steadilly increasing, we do not have 
a solid date but it will be withing three weeks, could i possiby get the 
contact information for the people who were behind the first two attempts to 
create an imc-egypt? i would like to talk with them and maybe we could merge 
together at the meeting, i also fully understand the idea of a collective 
approach which is why i have done so much to reach out beyond our school, 
ive contacted one mosque  and two different churches, we have the american 
univercity in cairo, and the list of affiliates so far is growing but 
nothing big to mention

one program our school currently runs is called ais for egypt kid go around 
helpimg the country out
alot of ais staff memvbers are interested and would be more than glad to 
stay after school for the meeting if it is allowed by the school, this is 
something i have not gotten a confirmation on, i hope we can find out why 
the first two attempts to create an imc egypt have failed

i do not know who was behind the first two attempts to create an imc egypt, 
but it seems all the people ive talked to regarding the creation of imc 
egypt are eager to learn alot more about the process, i keep directing them 
to the right websites

thank you for your valuable time
i just hope you can forgive me for being individualistic in the beginning

mohojay


>From: Petros <petros at cyprus-org.net>
>To: new-imc at lists.indymedia.org,  vally_x at lycos.com,  buk9tp at hotmail.com
>CC: imc- eastern-mediterranean 
><imc-eastern-mediterranean at lists.indymedia.org>
>Subject: imc Egypt
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:31:27 -0800
>
>
>
>imc Egypt / new-imc work- group
>
>(short introduction:
>I'm a member of the Cyprus Imc group, and one of the imc volunteers working 
>to create an Eastern Mediterranean regional imc network.
>I'm of one of the new-imc work- group members who is more "part time" that 
>our other colleagues in the work- group. I'm more in the "activated" mode 
>when our work concerns proposed imc groups in our region and/or other 
>similar situations.
>Petros)
>
>
>A few thoughts on the current application to create an imc Egypt:
>
>We need to remember that this is the third attempt to create an imc in 
>Egypt. We need to have some self-critique on that, or at least familiarity 
>with what happened (or what did not happen).
>
>Also, I must say, that no matter how good the intentions of Mohammed (the 
>person who is initiating the application,) the concepts expressed in the 
>application show at least two problems we need to deal with:
>1. there's not a clear understanding that IndyMedia is *not* a website. I 
>agree with Evan on the need to keep identifying this problem with all of 
>our new colleagues. And it is *our* responsibility to create a climate of 
>co-operation on the basis of the reality of what imc is.
>2. in the initial materials there seems to be a great emphasis on an 
>individual(-ist) understanding of the work, and hardly any understanding 
>(or yearning for) a collectivist approach.
>
>Plus, there are significant political realities in Egypt, and it would be a 
>crime for us to build this bond with our new colleagues, or to process  
>this application, without reference to politics.
>
>I propose further, if our people accept it, that we ask of our comrades in 
>imc-Beirut to help with this application, for example Imad and Raida who 
>have a hands- on participation in the regional/local political process, who 
>have an understanding of the depth of the struggle in our region, and a 
>familiarity with the difficulties involved in doing imc work in the Arabic 
>language.
>
>How does it sound?
>Petros
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