[New-imc] sf.indymedia.org/indybay.org Split Problems
Pseudo Punk
bart at indymedia.org
Mon Jan 5 02:24:54 PST 2004
Hey Lisa,
I think this is a imc-process issue.
Greetings,
Bart
lisa natasha <igzoom at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello New IMC Group,
>
> Below is the mediation agreement the SF-IMC consensed
> upon when deciding to split up. I should have sent it
> along with the New IMC application for the San
> Francisco IMC, but I did not.
>
> Our group spent over 16 hours in mediation which cost
> a lot of money. And unfortunately the agreement is not
> being upheld by the group that got to keep
> sf.indymedia.org.
>
> The SFBAY-IMC was supposed to get indybay.org as one
> of the domain names. And we were also supposed to get
> a blurb and link to our site from sf.indymedia.org.
> The new San Francisco has refused to do these things.
>
> Without owning indybay.org, the new San Francisco IMC
> has the power to point it away from our site at
> anytime. Without a link to our site from
> sf.indymedia.org very few people will be able to find
> our site, and the few people in the new San Francisco
> IMC will keep the audience it took years for us all to
> build up, in effect, they will be keeping the rewards
> of years of other people's work.
>
> We are asking for the new San Francisco IMC to turn
> over ownership of indybay.org to the SFBAY-IMC
> immediately and to link to our site as per the
> agreement. If this does not happen, we would like to
> ask the New IMC group to re-consider the San Francisco
> IMC's new IMC application.
>
> Lisa
> For the SF Bay Area IMC
> http://indybay.org
>
> (The SF Bay Area IMC contains 9 people that orginally
> worked on sf.indymedia.org before the split)
>
>
>
>
> SF-IMC SPLIT AGREEMENT - CONSENSED UPON ON NOV 13,
> 2003
>
> *****SECTION 1 - Domain Name
>
> a) Ryan & Noah's group will get sf.indymedia.org &
> will need to go through new IMC process.
> Sf.indymedia.org will have a prominent link and center
> column blurb about the SF Bay Area IMC on their front
> page. The center column blurb will stay up for 3
> months, the link will remain up permanently. The SF
> Bay Area IMC will not block or impede their new IMC
> application, and the new IMC will be recognized by the
> SF Bay Area IMC.
>
> b) The SF Bay Area IMC will change their DNS to
> sfbay.indymedia.org & indybay.org. The SF Bay Area IMC
> will not have to go through new IMC process, since
> they are remaining the SF Bay Area IMC.
> Sfbay.indymedia.org & indybay.org will have a
> prominent link and center column blurb about Noah &
> Ryan's IMC on their front page. The center column
> blurb will stay up for 3 months, the link will remain
> up permanently.
>
> c) An email consensed upon by both IMCs will be
> presented to global Indymedia as a cover letter/blurb
> to the New IMC group with the new IMC application
> explaining the mediation process we went through and
> the decision that we came to. Lisa will draft up this
> email, to be consensed upon by both groups by Monday.
>
> d) Site software/database of articles/uploaded files
> Will be copied and shared
>
> e) Jurisdiction
> People can decide for themselves what IMC they want to
> be involved in, regardless of where they live.
>
> f) Working Arrangements
> There will be nothing official saying that Sunny, Mark
> & Lisa can not work with the new IMC (and the same
> goes for Noah & Ryan) - it will just be assumed that
> these people won't want to work with each other and
> will organize accordingly.
>
> g) SF-ACTIVE
> The conflict will not spill over into the SF-Active
> working group. There was a acknowledgement that Noah &
> Ryan would not try to kick Mark out of the SF-Active
> Working group.
>
> h) Clarification on blurb and link
> There will be an identical (small) blurb in the center
> column of each site for three months. The 1st month it
> will be the top story, the 2nd month, it will be the
> 2nd story, and the 3rd month it will be the 3rd story.
> Ian will draft the blurb by Monday, the blurb must be
> accessible to all. The permanent link to each site
> respectively will be prominent near the top of each
> web site.
>
> i) Negative Propaganda
> Neither IMC will engage in negative propaganda about
> the other. No one involved in either IMC should ever
> tell people "don't post to the other IMC" or "The
> other IMC is not trustworthy." Publicly we should all
> support both IMCs and respect their existence in the
> Bay Area and continue to be a resource for the
> community (no sabotaging each other!).
>
> *****SECTION 2 - Financial Resources
>
> a) Credit Union Account The SF Bay Area IMC will
> retain the account. The money will be split 50/50
> between both groups. The SF Bay Area IMC will get an
> additional $300 to equal what was given to Noah for a
> "tech slush fund".
>
> b) Slush fund - Will be split evenly between both
> groups
>
> c) Media Alliance fiscal sponsorship
> The SF Bay Area IMC will remain fiscally sponsored by
> Media Alliance. The new IMC will be responsible for
> finding their own fiscal sponsor.
>
> d) Paypal Account
> Will be retained by the SF Bay Area IMC, since it is
> connected to the checking account that they will
> retain.
>
> e) Financial Timeline
> Money will be transferred to new IMC by 11/21
>
> *****SECTION 3 - Tech Resources
>
> a) Gauss / transbay donation
> The SF Bay Area Imc will retain responsibility for it
>
> b) Stray-Black cat - is a linefeed server and will be
> retained by linefeed
>
> c) Werner - will be returned to josh, he can do what
> he wants to it.
>
> d) Three pc laptops in the back office - One goes to
> each Imc, and one goes to Nana
>
> e) Rack-mounted server - Will go to the SF Bay Area
> IMC and host sfbay.indymedia.org & indybay.org
>
> f) Sfimc.net - will go to Ryan & Noah's IMC
>
> SECTION 4 - Audio Resources
> a) enemycombatantradio.org - will be the
> responsibility of the Enemy Combatant Radio collective
>
> b) The name "enemy combatant radio" - will be retained
> by the Enemy Combatant Radio collective
>
> c) Minidisc recorders - will go to the SF Bay Area IMC
>
> d) Enemy combatant radio mp3 archives - goes to both
> new IMCs
>
> *****SECTION 5: - Mailing lists
>
> a) Indymedia Mailing lists / Aliases
> All requested to be turned off. Each group is
> responsible for creating new mailing lists.
>
> b) Linefeed-sponsored Mailing lists (imc-sf-urgent)
> All requested to be turned off
>
> c) Indybay Mailing List on Yahoogroups
> Remain runing as-is, not used for anything but still
> functioning
>
> *****SECTION 6: Space Resources
>
> a) The Space and all computer equipment in it,
> including the telephone line, will remain the
> responsibility of the SF Bay Area IMC.
>
> b) The Radio Office will remain the responsibility of
> the Enemy Combatant Radio Collective
>
> c) Vacating space timeline
> Noah & Ryan's group will be out of the SF Bay Area
> space by December 31. They will send a list of items
> (with their estimated cost) that remain in the space
> to the SF Bay Area IMC, so that the SF Bay Area IMC &
> Suite 216 can figure out how to replace them, or if
> they will need to purchase them from the owners of the
> equipment. This list will be given to the SF Bay Area
> IMC by Dec 15.
>
> *****SECTION 7: Misc Resources
>
> a) Stickers/T-shirts - purchased by Ryan & Noah's
> group for a price (t-shirts were $5 each, plus tax? we
> purchased about 500 of them)
>
> b) Police Scanners - retained by Ryan & Noah's group
>
> c) Press Passes Peter will send a clarifying letter to
> SFPD letting them know that there are 2 groups now. He
> will send out to int list for approval by Monday.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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