[New-imc] introduction

zogren at yahoo.com zogren at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 6 10:05:59 PST 2004


So I should give a short introduction
.
My name is Zachary Ogren. I have been working in San Francisco
with the local Indymedia for the past 3 years. Initially I mainly did tech
work
and wrote the initial admin system and the initial calendar for sf-active
(its probably changed since then and I havnt been involved in about a year)
I also take photos and help with editorial and have posted hundreds of
pictures from different protests (and other events) to the local site
under the author name Z. I am trying to get into graduate school
at UC Berkeley in math so I will mainly be covering campus based
activist events for the next 1/2 year. I have worked with a few people
with other Indymedias at large protests but have never really been
interested in getting on the global lists until now.

I have always been involved with various activist groups,
but never one group in particular. During the DNC in 1996
I did some work with CounterMedia (a group that was in
some ways a precursor to Indymedia). Aside from doing
actvist work Ive worked as a software developer for many
years and am now trying to become a math graduate student.

When sf.indymedia.org split I ended up in the indybay collective.
As has probably been already discovered in the previous post,
the split was very difficult on all of us and we had to hire an outside
mediator. Since most of us had been promoting the sf.indymedia.org
url for the past few years we really did not want to give up the name.
So, I guess I work with the www.indybay.org collective now, but
since the url may be taken from us its hard to say which site I work
with anymore (although Im going out to take pictures of a protest
about Palestine tonight and one related to antiwar arrests Friday
so its not like I have just given up).

Sorry if I went to much into the split again in my introduction,
but its been eating up a lot of my time and energy for the
past 1/2 year and its a little scary to think that new-imc may not
want to deal with the issue. A lot of people in our collective feel
stronger about the conflicts that lead up to the split than me
and a few new people were the main people that pressured us
to email this list,so hopefully those people can get on here (or whatever
appropriate list) and speak for themselves. I guess the reason we agreed
to email new-imc as a collective rather than process was that we felt that
process
was a much larger lists and things could end up going in circles
(I havnt had much experience with global lists so I dont really
know) We also felt that the problem wasnt necessarilly between collectives
if the issue relates to the main agreement of the split itself
(us getting indybay while they get the sf.indymedia.org name). While
new-imc gave them our old name, our new name still belongs to the
sf.indymedia.org collective and they have said they will never give
up ownership (and they only told us this after things were approved on
new-imc
and are now saying that they never agreed to ownership and us getting
indybay
just meant having our url point to us).

While I want to be on here and/or process to help discuss this specific
problem, I would be interested in being more involved with global
decissions in the future (I think our group as a whole has been feeling
trapped
since many people who have had interactions with the global network in
the past ended up in the other group after the split).

-Z
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pseudo Punk" <bart at indymedia.org>
To: <zogren at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:58 AM
Subject: subscription to new-imc list


Hey,

I've seen your request to subscribe to new-imc list. The new-imc Working
group decided when it started people should do a roll-call before we
subscribe them. Is it possible to do a short introduction on the mailinglist
?

Greetings,

Bart



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