[New-imc] Re: Latest timeline of the new sf.indymedia group's violations

[gekked at blackflag.net]

All of these occurrences are repeated attempts by SFBAY to threaten
and intimidate SF Indymedia members to act outside of consensus. What
they fail to include here are people's attempts to make SFBAY quit
cornering individuals and deal with consensus. While we appreciate 
their continued attempts to smear people's names in front of a global 
audience, we again ask SFBAY to take responsibility for their own 
actions and acknowledge the flagrant and broad violations of the 
agreement, including sending these emails to global IMC. 

-gek/sfimc

Otto Nomous <soydog at riseup.net> said:
> Latest timeline of the new sf.indymedia group's violation of the 
> mediation agreement:
> 
> Approx. 12/1: Noah (a member of the new sf.indymedia group and 
> linefeed.org) come to the IMC space trying to take the mini-disc 
> recorder. Noah verbally treatens Sunny from indybay.org and physically 
> pushes her out of the way. When asked to explain himself or take 
> responsibility for this action Noah's response is: "why don't you call 
> the pigs. no court would convict me of assault."
> 
> A week before the sites could split smoothly and right before the 
> coverage of the SF election (12/9, which garnered lots of attention 
> from the community), one member of the sf.indymedia group (with no 
> agreement even from the people in his own group) locks the 
> sfbay.indymedia.org group out of the shared site by taking away the 
> admin passwords and hides any attempts to complain on sf.indymedia.org.
> 
> 12/10 11am: After already having failed to hand over the DNS for 
> indybay.org and linking to it as a feature on their website as they 
> were supposed to in the previous month, the sf.indymedia.org group now 
> claim that they first "want their stuff back and then they'll turn over 
> indybay" which was not part of the agreement.
> 
> 12/10 11:30am: Ian (also known as ibm), a member of the new 
> sf.indymedia group, claims that the DNS is "in Josh (also known as 
> espe; another member of the new sf.indymedia group and linefeed.org)'s 
> hands since he owns the DNS".
> 
> 12/10 12:45pm: Ian informs a member of the indybay.org group that 
> indybay.org should be handed over "when Josh get his equipment out of 
> the space."
> 
> 12/10 3:28pm: The indybay.org group is informed that Ryan (also known 
> as gekked; a member of the new sf.indymedia group and linefeed.org) 
> acted unilaterally to change password access to sf.indymedia.org 
> without informing anyone and that the sf.indymedia group will discuss 
> it at their meeting that weekend. And that "the decision to not give 
> sfbay.indymedia the DNS entry wasn't a group decision but Ian sees it 
> as something they have to consense on to overrule."
> 
> 12/13 9:30pm: After learning that Ryan (gekked) of the new sf.indymedia 
> group has deleted the sf-imc email list AND the ecr (Enemy Combatant 
> Radio) list without warning anyone, a member of the indybay.org sends 
> an email to the global listwork list asking for the archives and the 
> ecr list to be restored emphasizing that "those 2 imc-sf lists have 3 
> 1/2 years of organizing history on them, and it is really important for 
> us to still have access to them."
> 
> 12/14 2am: Another member of indybay.org points out that that "the new 
> sf.indymedia group is going against the agreement by redirecting 
> aliases to their new email addresses" and that "when we said we were 
> deleting the lists, we meant that and they agreed to this."
> 
> 12/14 12:29pm: indybay.org members find out that Ryan (gekked) has 
> deliberately pointed indybay.org to a non-existent ip adress 
> (172.100.100.3). It seems obvious that the only reason for doing such a 
> thing is to sabotage the indybay.org domain by making people stop using 
> it before it is handed over to the indybay.org group.
> 
> 12/14 12:55pm: An appointment is made with Josh (espe) for 12/15 at 7pm 
> "to pick up the switches and werner from the space" and to switch the 
> indybay.org DNS.
> 
> 12/15 7pm - 10pm: Josh and Ian from the new sf.indymedia group show up 
> to the SF Bay Area IMC space. Josh informs members of indybay.org that 
> "all this time it was Ryan who had access to the Everydns account for 
> indybay.org, not Josh" and that "since indybay.org was updated to point 
> to a non-existant IP address just a few days ago, Josh can't access 
> it." The indybay.org group then asks Josh to change the DNS to 
> something indybay.org group can control and also to hand over the 
> ownership of the indybay.org domain. Josh responds regarding giving 
> ownership of the domain that "he felt his collective hadn't reached 
> consensus for him to do that. He did say he would do "it" within 24 
> hours, however."
> 
> Another indybay.org member tells "Ian that if it didn't happen within 
> 24-48 hours the sfbay-imc would be sending out an email to the 
> indymedia network outlining the terms of the agreement and what needs 
> to happen." Both Josh and Ian leave the space before telling anyone and 
> without taking any of their equipment that were boxed up for them.
> 
> 12/16 10:30pm: After the 24 hours have passed, Ian and Ryan inform the 
> sfbay.indymedia group that "they are refusing to budge on indybay.org 
> immediately, but Ryan asks to give him time (he said by Thursday) to 
> draft up a list of their group's concerns and recommendations to 
> resolve them, then have a memorandum of understanding between the two 
> groups whereby they transfer the domain ownership." Having already gone 
> through long mediation process where an agreement was finalized, 
> indybay.org members reject any further arbitrary negotiation.
> 
> 12/16 10:40pm: indybay.org members are convinced that the new 
> sf.indymedia group were trying to sabotage indybay.org by messing up 
> the very things that were of value to the domain (the fact that people 
> linked to it and that it was in the Google cache). The new sf.indymedia 
> group is continuing to violate the mediation agreement where both 
> groups' "concerns" were heard during "the 20+ hours of negotiating 
> process and hundreds and hundreds of hard earned IMC money were spent 
> on coming up with the agreement with a third party facilitator.
> 
> 12/17 3pm: After a member of indybay.org group contacts Nessie, a 
> member of the new sf.indymedia group, he receives an email response 
> saying that their collective is not allowing communications with the 
> indybay.org group (and that he was violating something just by 
> responding to the email).
> 
> 12/17 10pm: The DNS indybay.org is now finally pointing to the correct 
> site: sfbay.indymedia.org. There are, however, no signs of the 
> indybay.org domain ownership being transferred over.
> 
> 12/18: An announcement post published on sf.indymedia.org by Whispered 
> Media about a local video screening gets hidden. Whispered Media has an 
> office in the same suite as the indybay.org group.
> 
> 12/19 3pm: An announcement post published on sf.indymedia.org by a 
> local organizer about a benefit show for indybay.org gets hidden 
> multiple times.
> 
> 12/22: Ryan from sf.indymedia.org contacts a member of indybay.org 
> saying that their "draft letter to the sfbay group is in circulation 
> and should be consensed on shortly."
> 
> 12/24: The indybay.org newswire begin to get spammed multiple times 
> with messages saying not much more than "CHECK OUT SF.INDYMEDIA.ORG" 
> and attacking indybay.org, effectively filling up the Breaking News 
> section of the newswire with identical spams. The indybay.org website 
> had already been filling up by this point with anonymous posts and 
> comments accusing indybay.org of being COINTELPRO-like and claiming 
> that indybay.org is just a "east bay IMC" that the sf.indymedia.org 
> group "allowed to form".
> 
> 12/30: Ryan from sf.indymedia.org sends an email saying "we want to 
> retain ownership of indybay as a bulwark against further mediation 
> violations"
> 
> 12/31: Ryan from sf.indymedia.org writes again saying "we went to pick 
> it up and josh was attacked by lisa, wayne and mark. We want it dropped 
> off somewhere with no strings attached." He is referring to 12/15 when 
> Ian and Josh came by the space to pick up the equipment. Josh left on 
> his own without telling anyone or taking any of the equipment that was 
> boxed up for them. Ian left with Lisa (from indybay.org) that night on 
> BART back to the east bay.