[New-imc] taking back the proposal
Otto Nomous
soydog at riseup.net
Wed Jan 7 01:28:12 PST 2004
> The high points of debate are 1. police issued presspasses, 2. dns',
> 3.
> trust issues, 4. property theft/with-holding, 5. publicity.
I'm sure the previous email I sent makes it clear that Point 1 and
Point 4 are irrelevant.
> Point 5 is becasue apparently a memeber of SFBAY talked to the
> corporate
> media and because SFBAY brought these local issues to global process.
SFBAY did not talk to the corporate media. A reporter from East Bay
Express, a local paper, has been trying to talk to both sides yesterday
and today about doing a story about the split. Once we found out, and
given the bad history of this particular reporter, the indybay.org
group discussed and reached consensus today about not saying a single
word to this reporter, who kept calling everyone he could think of
being associated with either group. However, before we made that
decision, a new member of indybay.org (who was not part of the split
and the mediation process) did talk to the reporter briefly when he
called her (after getting her number from calling around the community)
earlier in the morning.
We have brought these local issues to global process precisely because
the new sf.indymedia.org group has violated the mediation agreement
from the beginning, as has already been pointed out in previous emails.
> So I tried the
> approach of taking it back to the local level and having a face to face
> meeting re-negotiating their agreement and getting it in proper writing
> and having it signed (apparently their agreement was mostly verbal and
> the
> version we got was lisa's (SFBAY) interpretation from the meeting
> notes)
> or something.
The agreement Lisa sent out was typed up the next day using the butcher
paper from the mediation. Kristen, the mediator could testify that this
was the actual agreement. I would agree that it was naive to not have
it be all legalistic and have a written document that got signed at the
actual mediation itself, but they made the agreement in good faith, not
expecting the type of behavior eventually displayed by the
sf.indymedia.org group.
This has been taken to the local level. Agreements were made from face
to face meetings. The new sf.indymedia.org group has not respected the
agreements made. That is why we are demanding that Ryan's group should
be denied control of the sf.indymedia.org domain.
-Jino
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